Devinder, I think, let's not take the thread to a different stage. Let's see for a solution how Railways can safe-guard the existing coach to people with disanilities and do not entertain other passengers. Asking for additional seats is not a priority for now.
On 5/23/10, devendra <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes you are right. What is the ratio of handicapped people in Indian > population? Is this four sleeper coach sufficient for the handicapped? > Devendra Nikose > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Himanshu Sahu" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 4:01 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] FW: regarding Handicapped coach > > >> In my openion, if we would be able to force certain changes into >> railway's system then problems can be avoided: >> 1. General coach should be located to the middle of train with more >> seats than existing. >> 2. In every sleeper class compartment, there should be at least three >> lower seats reserved for Physically disabled. >> 3. reservation of birth should be completely removed from general >> disabled coach. >> >> >> >> On 5/15/10, tkg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> dear friends >>> to solve the problem my oppinion is that handicapped coaches open for >>> all >>> handicapped persons with ordinary tickets. the handicapped quota is >>> allowed in the other coaches. >>> the organizations working in the field of handicapped wanted to use >>> their >>> pressure on the authority in this matter. >>> best wishes >>> >>> gopi t k >>> skipe id thiruvancherigopi >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "surya narayana" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 8:49 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AI] FW: regarding Handicapped coach >>> >>> >>>> they have uniform and other understanding with one another. so they >>>> can understand who is their men. here we are disabled possibities are >>>> less. moreover its hard to recognise the disability in short duration >>>> of time before the train moves. >>>> >>>> On 5/21/10, Subramani L <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> This is because military is powerful and if they make a noise you can >>>>> hear the echo in the Parliament. Whereas if we make noise in front of >>>>> the handicapped bogi we would likely be shunted out of the platform. >>>>> >>>>> Subramani >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tushar >>>>> Kansara >>>>> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 4:26 PM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] FW: regarding Handicapped coach >>>>> >>>>> military has got full bogie for itself and they dont even open the door >>>>> for >>>>> generals >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 3:57 PM, surya narayana >>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> do you feel that the coach is enough for all these people along with >>>>>> reservation? if all the two lower berths are reserved for handicapped, >>>>>> then wat is the status of other general ticket holders let us take >>>>>> thisssssssisue with railway minister and other officials. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 5/20/10, Tushar Kansara <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> > amiyo >>>>>> > >>>>>> > if u had the reservation ticket with sl1 reservation >>>>>> > it contains train number >>>>>> > date >>>>>> > >>>>>> > and of course one needs certain communication skills to be able to >>>>> have a >>>>>> > constructive dialogue with the users of the compartment >>>>>> > >>>>>> > the lower berth generally gets occupied by seaters and sharers >>>>>> > and then in the end it is used by the sleeper >>>>>> > >>>>>> > so reserved ones take upper berth or keep bag there >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Amiyo Biswas >>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>> >wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> >> Hello, >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> I traveled by handicapped couch from Howrah to Delhi by Poorva >>>>> Express >>>>>> in >>>>>> >> March this year. My reservation was not confirmed and so I had to >>>>> use >>>>>> this >>>>>> >> facility, in my fellow passengers' terms, at a loss. Anyway, what I >>>>>> >> understood from the passengers and the RPF on Howrah station is >>>>> that if >>>>>> >> you >>>>>> >> have a handicapped card and a ticket in any form, you can travel by >>>>> this >>>>>> >> couch. Escorts are also allowed in the same couch for the >>>>> convenience of >>>>>> >> the >>>>>> >> handicapped passengers. I think, berths in this couch are not >>>>> allotted >>>>>> >> during reservation process. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> With Best regards, >>>>>> >> Amiyo Biswas. >>>>>> >> Cell: 91-9433464329 >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "surya narayana" < >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>> >> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 2:52 PM >>>>>> >> Subject: Re: [AI] FW: regarding Handicapped coach >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> hello friends, >>>>>> >>> i requested all the guard and railway police force. but no use. >>>>>> >>> because there was no chart on the compartment containing my >>>>>> >>> reservation details. even if there's any chart, how can we ask the >>>>>> >>> handicapped fellow men to vacate the seat? they too have the right >>>>> to >>>>>> >>> sit on the seats as well as other passingers. it is pity to note >>>>> that >>>>>> >>> it is totally irrelavant to make arrangements to reserve seats in >>>>>> >>> disabled compartment. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> On 5/20/10, Tushar Kansara <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>>> the nearest person who can help u in handicapped coach is the >>>>> train >>>>>> >>>> guard >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:26 PM, surya narayana >>>>>> >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> Hello sir, >>>>>> >>>>> I too have a immemorable and bitter experience with handicapped >>>>>> coach. >>>>>> >>>>> I was given reservation in that coach and could not find my >>>>> berth >>>>>> >>>>> until i reach visakhapattanam. if you want, i can provide all my >>>>>> >>>>> experience. basically I am from andhrapradesh. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> On 5/19/10, Subramani L <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>> > Folks (particularly from those in Bangalore): >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > I am specifically looking for at least one experience from >>>>>> Bangalore >>>>>> >>>>> > > >>>>>> >>>>> in >>>>>> >>>>> > order to take my report forward. Though I can mention >>>>> experiences >>>>>> of >>>>>> >>>>> > > >>>>>> >>>>> VIs >>>>>> >>>>> > in other places, it is highly important to get it from those >>>>> in >>>>>> >>>>> > Bangalore as I have had a chance of speaking to the Divisional >>>>>> >>>>> > Manager >>>>>> >>>>> > of Railways who claims everything to be hunky-dory. Also, >>>>> since my >>>>>> >>>>> > newspaper is circulated in Bangalore I need to see if people >>>>> here >>>>>> >>>>> > have >>>>>> >>>>> > had any specific bad experiences in the last three to six >>>>> months. > >>>>>> >>>>> Kindly >>>>>> >>>>> > write abck to me. >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > Subramani >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > -----Original Message----- >>>>>> >>>>> > From: Madhu Singhal [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>> >>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 10:31 PM >>>>>> >>>>> > To: Subramani L >>>>>> >>>>> > Subject: Re: regarding Handicapped coach >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > Dear Subramani, >>>>>> >>>>> > Infact, >>>>>> >>>>> > There is no railway staf officially. >>>>>> >>>>> > We felt some railway people unoficially was sitting there. >>>>>> >>>>> > A big mob had entered saying that this is a women coach. >>>>>> >>>>> > But in that crowd there men also. >>>>>> >>>>> > the noise was so much and we are two women could not able to >>>>> shout. >>>>>> >>>>> > There is no commection of this coach from other coach. >>>>>> >>>>> > It was quite broad and both the side two long seats up and >>>>> down. >>>>>> >>>>> > In chinai they did not listen any thing. >>>>>> >>>>> > In Bangalore i went to station master, >>>>>> >>>>> > he said better you write to southern railway because i can not >>>>> take >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> any >>>>>> >>>>> > action. >>>>>> >>>>> > There is no pantry car and this will be the last coach no one >>>>> come >>>>>> >>>>> > there. >>>>>> >>>>> > Toilet was also very broad but we never used because >>>>> they >>>>>> maid >>>>>> >>>>> > very dirty. >>>>>> >>>>> > But i receive a letter from railway authority saying we >>>>> can >>>>>> not >>>>>> >>>>> > do any thing regarding coach because i have also given some > >>>>>> >>>>> suggestions. >>>>>> >>>>> > They have promised that they will send to concern >>>>> authorty. >>>>>> >>>>> > After that i did not follow up. >>>>>> >>>>> > Madhu Singhal.----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> >>>>> > From: Subramani L <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>> > To: Madhu Singhal <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 8:41 PM >>>>>> >>>>> > Subject: RE: regarding Handicapped coach >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > Dear Madam: >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > A few questions.... Did the authorities you had >>>>> complained to >>>>>> >>>>> > (in Chennai and in Bangalore) recognised that it was the >>>>>> handicapped >>>>>> >>>>> > coach? Or did you struggle explaining to them about the >>>>> existence >>>>>> of >>>>>> >>>>> > > >>>>>> >>>>> the >>>>>> >>>>> > coach itself? >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > Did you tell the people getting into the coach that it >>>>> was >>>>>> not >>>>>> >>>>> > meant for the public and was a special coach for the >>>>> handicapped >>>>>> >>>>> > persons? >>>>>> >>>>> > What was the reaction of the public when you explained >>>>> to >>>>>> them >>>>>> >>>>> > about the purpose of the coach? Did anyone object or use >>>>>> threatening >>>>>> >>>>> > > >>>>>> >>>>> or >>>>>> >>>>> > abusive language when you did that? >>>>>> >>>>> > Were any railway staff around for to sort out the >>>>> confusion? >>>>>> >>>>> > What was the condition of the coach? Was it broad enough >>>>> for >>>>>> >>>>> > people to walk freely? Was it connected with the rest of the >>>>>> coaches? >>>>>> >>>>> > Were pantry men allowed to sell food? >>>>>> >>>>> > Who did you complain to in Bangalore? >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > Rgards, >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > Subramani >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > -----Original Message----- >>>>>> >>>>> > From: Madhu Singhal [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>> >>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 6:57 PM >>>>>> >>>>> > To: Subramani L >>>>>> >>>>> > Subject: Re: regarding Handicapped coach >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > Dear Subramani, >>>>>> >>>>> > In 2007 january i was travelling to Chinaifrom >>>>> Bangalore. >>>>>> >>>>> > I booked my ticket along with friend in a c coach. >>>>>> >>>>> > But it was in waiting list and did not confirmed. >>>>>> >>>>> > Last moment we thaught okay we will try handicap coach. >>>>>> >>>>> > We went and sat there. >>>>>> >>>>> > It was empty only one disabled person was there. >>>>>> >>>>> > We are very happy thinking can go comfortably. >>>>>> >>>>> > After contonment one railway staf came and sat. >>>>>> >>>>> > There was no TTI. >>>>>> >>>>> > But after 15 minute later coach was ful and they were >>>>> pushing >>>>>> >>>>> > that disabled person. >>>>>> >>>>> > After some time we can not even breathe. >>>>>> >>>>> > Noone came to check the ticket. >>>>>> >>>>> > After reaching Chinai i went and told to the station >>>>> master. >>>>>> >>>>> > He said you can complain after reaching Bangalore. >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > After comming here i sent my ticket to the concern >>>>> authority >>>>>> >>>>> > and >>>>>> >>>>> > they diduct the money and sent me the left over money. >>>>>> >>>>> > I wrote a letter to the railway department about it. >>>>>> >>>>> > I got an answer we will take action but nothing >>>>> happened. >>>>>> >>>>> > Madhu Singhal. >>>>>> >>>>> > The train was Vrindavan express. >>>>>> >>>>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> >>>>> > From: Subramani L <mailto: >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > To: Madhu Singhal >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:21 PM >>>>>> >>>>> > Subject: regarding Handicapped coach >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > 2Dear Madam: >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > I remember you mentioning to me once about the >>>>> bad >>>>>> >>>>> > experience you had in the handicapped coach. Kindly let me >>>>> know if >>>>>> >>>>> > you >>>>>> >>>>> > can speak about it on the record. 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