Hi Amit sir, When I wrote the NET exam 2 years ago, the scribe filled the answer to question number 3 in the space provided for question number 4. She was a clerk in the university and I was not happy with her abilities.
On 8/7/11, Amit Bhatt <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Syed, > > As I've told you over the phone, I am taking your matter as a strong example > of our problem an the disadvantages of using a bad Scribe in the > examination. Generally when the Writer is with les than 60% or lower marks, > such type of hurdles come very often. > I would need more and more true example through E-mails from other examinees > too. So I can enclose them in support of our Petition. > > Regards, > > Amit Bhatt > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "S. M. syed hussain" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 9:18 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] CANDIDATES WITH THEIR scribe needed for the petition..... > > > Hai all, Let me give you an example based on the scribe issue. I sat > for the UGC NET at Coimbatore tamilnadu on June 26 2011. The exam was > held at Sri Ramakrishna College of Arts & Science for Women > Coimbatore. I was given a scribe who was a baccalaureate in chemistry. > 1. The person didn’t know how to shade the OMR sheet and had to be > explained, while the time had already started clicking away. 2. The > person’s pronunciation was not good, --- I’m polite---- rather, it was > horrible. Examples: Essential pronounced as Essen t ial, lively > pronounced as live li, lively as live leeness, historian as > historican, aids as aits etc. These words I could guess, but the > person read so many other words as horrible as possible; literally I > happened to make the person spell almost all the words. 3. The person > didn’t know the use of punctuations. We can make jaws read some, most, > all or none but the person was reading out every punctuation mark. 4. > Highlight of all, the person skipped the passage in reading > comprehension part and just read the questions and its options. I came > to know the blunder only at the concluding minutes. (People who have > written net exams would understand what I’m saying.) First, I thought > from the 6th question its research aptitude and therefore they had > asked about historical research. But when she read the 7th answer I > could not guess anything because it was again about intellectual > historian. So I jumped to the 11th question. Fortunately, I did not > attend the questions from 7th to 10th. Yet the unfortunate thing is > that the person did not tell me anything about the paragraph typed > above the reading comprehension questions. These were audible > mistakes. I don’t know about invisible things, if I have to think in > that way. I was in a dilemma whether or not to sit for the proceeding > papers. The reason is if one fails in the first, second will not be > evaluated. Amidst all these confusions, I have to make a decision > because if I leave the hall without pointing out the blunders, then no > one will understand or no one will change things and the blame would > be on me. Finally I requested the invigilator, who came only at > irregular intervals, to change the scribe. His answer was not > appropriate so I demanded for a change because with the same person I > cannot write a paper on English literature. Unfortunately, change > happened. The new person who came as a scribe was worse than the > previous. Thank god, the invigilator was observing the mistakes. He > was asking the scribe to read the mispronounced words properly. I > really got pissed off. I warned him to change the scribe and if the > third alternative was the same then I would be calling up the news > agencies and I would be reporting the issue to make it big. He tried > intimidating me and talked about the rules duties and the help he is > rendering to me. As I did not give up he had to finally bring his peer > invigilator as scribe (a lecturer of computer department). The third > person was better than all the others but not to the mark. As it was > my area I corrected mistakes and decoded the meaning. One instance, > students of English would know the first question asked in the 9 marks > section, who are university wits was the actual one. The person read > as how was the university wits? Another problem was the officials > where not well informed about the extra time provided for us. They > themselves decided that it’s 30 minutes but actually it was 45 > minutes. So they alarm me and also completely disturb my flow of > thought. Then I had to waste some more time in pointing out the rules > from the instructions paper (fortunately I had the paper). Mind you, I > have already wasted precious time in arguing and changing several > scribers. > I’ll be having state eligibility test soon. I talked to the > authorities to find a solution but vain attempt. They play games by > forwarding me back and forth. One says that no one can check the > scribers ability it’s based on luck. Another says for the sake of one > person he cannot change norms. > Perhaps Each university has its own unwritten rules in NET or SET > though UGC has its own unfair norms. University of Madras provides > Scribers who are current students of masters in the same area of the > VI candidates. Where as, Barathiar university provides an under > graduate from other discipline who are working currently. In the case > of Osmania University AP, they provide a non-teaching staff of the > same university; they may be of any administrative post such as > assistants, clerks, engineers etc. > Amith and others, I need your help in these issue. What should one do > to make them change the norms? Why shouldn’t the options be open? I > mean, let them provide eligible scribers or let us bring our own > scribers where we will follow the same rules > > Thanks > Syed Hussain > > On 8/6/11, Amit Bhatt <[email protected]> wrote: >> On 8/5/11, Kanchan Pamnani <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Amit please ask SSisodia. In his matter RBI and SBI have filed replies. >>> This >>> case changed the SBI rules from 50% to 60%. >>> This matter is not over as yet. In this matter we had the meeting on >>> 19th >>> February -minutes of this meeting have been sent to you by Rajesh. >>> Kanchan >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Amit Bhatt" <[email protected]> >>> To: "Asudani, Rajesh" <[email protected]>; >>> <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 8:28 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AI] CANDIDATES WITH THEIR scribe needed for the >>> petition..... >>> >>> >>>> Thank you Rajesh bhai. >>>> I have also come to know that RBI does not bound us with such arbitrary >>>> rule of using Scribe with less than 60% marks. >>>> I have saved an old recruitment advertisement given by RBI in 2010 where >>>> I >>>> >>>> could see no guideline given for on the use of the Scribe. >>>> Since you are working with them, could you see and find out the Scribe >>>> rules of RBI? >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Amit Bhatt >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <[email protected]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Cc: "Amit Bhatt" <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 1:12 PM >>>> Subject: RE: [AI] CANDIDATES WITH THEIR scribe needed for the >>>> petition..... >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear Amit >>>> Please find the minutes of Meeting about scribe policy held by CCPD on >>>> Feb. 19, 2008, and Guidelines issued by Maharashtra CPD at the behest of >>>> Bombay High court on December 20, 2006, in Marathi along with >>>> translation, >>>> >>>> enclosed. >>>> Recent order of April 29, 2011, clarifies that one grade junior means >>>> one >>>> year junior, and not one course junior... >>>> >>>> >>>> Let us hope that five candidates with desired scribes would come forth. >>>> If not, let me know and I myself would apply for any ongoing exams and >>>> come forth against the grave injustice being perpetrated on VI in the >>>> name >>>> >>>> of curbing cheating..... >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Amit Bhatt >>>> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 10:24 AM >>>> To: accessindia >>>> Subject: [AI] CANDIDATES WITH THEIR scribe needed for the petition..... >>>> >>>> Dear friends, >>>> >>>> We will need at least 5 examinees along with their scribe to be >>>> presented in the Court if it is required at the initial stage of our >>>> petition process. >>>> I have been told by Advocate that he needs 5 people who wanted to take >>>> their exams using their faithful writers with more than 60% marks but >>>> they could not take the exams because of the existing rule of using >>>> Scribe with having less than 60% marks only. >>>> The Scribes may have to write something on the sheet if Court asks to do >>>> so. >>>> Actually we have to persuade the Court in an appropriate manner and >>>> for that Magistrate may ask us to present some facts. >>>> Please do talk to me on 9560175887 if you need any further >>>> understanding. >>>> Would request any of the 5 victim examinees to come forward with me to >>>> process the petition strongly against the arbitrary Scribe policies. >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Amit Bhatt >>>> >>>> Search for old postings at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>> [email protected] >>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>> please visit the list home page at >>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> >>>> Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential >>>> and >>>> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are >>>> addressed. 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