Hello, Some of us sat together and decided the conditions. The Reason behind the upper age limit is very simple.
Anyone can complete the masters by the time when he or she reaches the age of 25, and xx xx xx xx Amit ji, Rajesh sir and Mr. Negi, I'll post the reasons very soon in your inboxes as accessindia's pages are often crawled by Google and it would not be appropriate to discuss all the details pertaining to the upper age limit. Rajesh sir, many many thanks to you for suggesting the qualification for the scribe in one single line. >From my other friends who are with me in this movement, I assure you that we all agree with you in all points except few. Namely, there should not be any upper age limit and the scribe pursuing similar stream in graduation be permitted to write the net exam. In the light of your suggestions, I'll I’ll revise the draft and again post here for further suggestions if any. With many Thanks, Akhilesh Kumar Dahiya. On 8/10/11, Amit Bhatt <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Akhilesh, > > It is good that you have brought this draft for the discussion on the > list before submitting to the concern authorities; otherwise we would > have been caught up with the huge loss again! > I would also suggest you the below points: > > 1. The Scribe can be from any Stream. When the Scribe is one standard > junior than the Examinee, than there is no logic to put any other rule > as a safe guard. > See Why I am saying this because it is very simple that a person who > is pursuing graduation, for an instance, ideally he would knot know > the course of Masters or other higher classes. Therefore, we consider > that a Scribe with one standard lower than the Examinee would not > help in the examination. > 2. Again, framing out the different guidelines for those who pursuing > the course of Sanskrit and Music, like they can have the Scribe from > the same stream, but other cannot, would involve us in a huge > complications and controversy. > 3. I would strongly recommend you to exclude the below lines from your > letter/draft: > “Keeping in view the fact that permitting the visually-challenged > candidates to bring his or her own scribe may prove to be a risky > business, as few amongst us may bring and engage the scribe where the > scribe may be competent and capable enough to solve the entire NET > question paper by him or herself, we propose the following safeguards” > The above line or statement is projecting the possibility of the > cheating and words like risky and Safeguard, may give them a good > opportunity to call us cheater in the future. So lets not try to make > any statement which can trouble for us in the last. > 4. As others have advised, the age of the Writer is not at all > required to be part of our proposal. If we do so, it would involve us > in another extra liability to produce the age Certificate of the > Writer and so on. And suppose if someone has got his late Education > and he is being our Scribe, then creating age criteria would be an > injustice part of our norms. So please let us forget about age, it > doesn’t make any sense. > The fact is that the Visually Impaired examinees are seeking the > Scribes from their limited resources. Therefore, we should not create > so many barriers on our own in the path of our progress. > Kindly revise the draft and then submit it to the concern officials. > > I lost your contact number, do call me or send your number again so I > can talk to you over the phone as well. > > All the best, > > Amit Bhatt > > > On 8/9/11, akhilesh <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hello, >> We, at delhi planning to give a representation to >> UGC stating that we are not willing to accept their scribe from the >> next UGC exam. the next UGC net exam is likely to be held in >> December. I have prepared a draft, and signature campaign is on. >> >> I'm pasting the representation draft below for the suggestions and >> comments from all of you. >> Here it goes: >> >> ============= >> Dated: 05.07.2011 >> >> To, >> The chairman University Grant Commission, >> Bahadur shah zafar marg >> Delhi, Delhi – 110002 >> >> Sub: Regarding the Problem of Scribe of Visually-challenged aspirants In >> UGC >> Net >> Exams. >> >> Sir, >> With great sorrow and regret, we, the persons belonging to the >> visually-challenged community would like to draw your attention on the >> following points: >> >> 1. That the most of the times we are being provided the >> incompetent/ineligible/careless scribe during the UGC NET examination, >> and this very fact deprives us to solve even half of the question >> paper, regardless of the fact that one has worked hard and knows all >> the answers well. >> 2. For your kind consideration, Carelessness and misfeasance committed >> by the authorities appointed by UGC are being enumerated below, the >> outcome of which can easily be assessed: >> a. Hindi Medium candidates are being provided the English Medium >> scribe, and on the other hand, English medium candidates Hindi medium >> scribe; >> b. In most of the cases, Sanskrit medium students have failed even to >> solve the single question as the scribe provided by the concern >> examination centre was not able to read and write Sanskrit; >> c. There Are large amount of cases, when the visually-challenged >> candidates are forced to engage the clerical staff, and even in some >> cases D grade employees, thereby destroying our each and every >> possibilities of passing the NET exam; >> d. for Your consideration: >> i. Clerical staff don’t write our exam seriously, they keep themselves >> busy in other official works; >> ii. A large amount of visually-challenged candidates are English >> medium, and the capability and ability to read and write English of >> clerical and D grade employees would be known to you keeping in view >> the standard of NET exam. >> 3. Therefore, with great respect we propose that in any case, and >> under any circumstances the visually challenged candidates are not >> willing to engage the scribe provided by the concern authorities, >> under the UGC rules and guidelines regarding the scribe for the NET >> exam. >> 4. We also propose that new guidelines regarding the scribe must be >> issued as soon as possible so as to they could be come in effect prior >> to the next UGC net exam which is about to be held likely in the month >> of December 2011. >> 5. Keeping in view the fact that permitting the visually-challenged >> candidates to bring his or her own scribe may prove to be a risky >> business, as few amongst us may bring and engage the scribe where the >> scribe may be competent and capable enough to solve the entire NET >> question paper by him or herself, we propose the following safeguards >> that must be taken into consideration while allowing the scribe in >> this connection: >> a. The scribe must be a person who is pursuing any undergraduate >> course in any university/college recognized by UGC, subject to the >> condition that the scribe should not be of the similar course for >> which the candidate is appearing for the UGC NET exam. >> b. The candidates those who are appearing for the Sanskrit and Music >> must essentially be allowed to engage the scribe of the similar >> course, as no other person can write and read Sanskrit well keeping in >> view the standard of the UGC NET exam except the person who is >> pursuing graduation in Sanskrit, and writing the theory of music >> involves notes writing with special signs, which can not be completed >> except by the person who knows it well. >> c. At the examination hall a scribe must produce the following documents: >> i. Original copy and photocopy of the Student I.D. card; >> ii. Original copy and photocopy of the mark sheet of the >> last exam passed; >> iii. The mark sheet must clearly state the name of the examination and >> the course as stated in student I.D. card; (I.E. both must be >> co-related); >> d. In any case, The Scribe must not be above the 25 years of age; >> e. A person pursuing masters degree may also be allowed as a scribe, >> subject to the condition that he is not pursuing the similar course >> for which the candidate is appearing for the UGC net exam. >> 6. University wise list of the visually-challenged students and >> candidates are attached with this application with their complete >> names and their signatures and LTIs as the case may be. >> >> Kindly take the affirmative, concrete and quick action in this regard, >> so that we can make right use of our studies and hard work, and could >> play a vital role in the progress and prosperity of our >> society by making our future better and bright. >> >> Thanking in anticipation, >> Yours faithfully, >> >> All the visually-challenged students and candidates agreeing and >> supporting the aforesaid points in its entirety. >> >> Copy to: >> 1. Chief Commissioner For persons with disabilities; >> 2. secretary to the ministry of Human resource development; >> 3. 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