Hello,

I found this mail as a personel mail.

hi payal didi,
I think at beginning level, my hands are the best to drop vegetables
in oil. let me practise for some days more and then catch you.



On 7/14/12, bijal patel <[email protected]> wrote:
> What did you see any personal in this mail?
> On 7/14/12, Phen Varghese <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Personel Mail?
>> Is this allowed in the list?
>>
>> Regard's,
>>
>> Phen Varghese
>>
>> On 7/14/12, bijal patel <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> hi payal didi,
>>> I think at beginning level, my hands are the best to drop vegetables
>>> in oil. let me practise for some days more and then catch you.
>>>
>>> On 7/13/12, payal <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Congratulations, Bijal. Good going.
>>>>
>>>> The only thing one can do to be careful not to spill oil out of the
>>>> cooking
>>>> utensil is to get an idea of where the rim of the container is, then
>>>> bring
>>>> your hand or whatever container may have your vegetable to go onto the
>>>> fire
>>>> and lightly drop it into the oil. Initially, it is scary because you are
>>>> trying to save the oil from splashing onto your hand, but if you put the
>>>> vegetable into another container, steel one, so it doesn't singe when
>>>> touched to the rim of the hot utensil on the fire, just tilt the
>>>> container
>>>> of the vegetable into the pan on the fire. It will splash some, because
>>>> of
>>>> some water content in it, but slow and steady, you'll definitely get
>>>> there.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of bijal patel
>>>> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 6:02 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Query for cooking area...
>>>>
>>>> Hi Prateek and all,
>>>> Really it seems good to have interest in cooking. It inspires many
>>>> males to go ahead in this field.
>>>> Well, It was very much difficult for me to convince my mum before two
>>>> months because of my late and total absent of sight. I had been trying
>>>> these efforts since 2009 after taking basic training from Mitra
>>>> Jyothi. Really there is broad difference between to learn in training
>>>> institute and learn in our home itself. But at last, I’ve won this
>>>> bettle completely..smiles..
>>>> Well friends, Today I cooked Capsicum curry in lunch and followed many
>>>> instructions given by you. I chopped Capsicum, remove all seeds
>>>> carefully myself  and no difficulty. Even today after lighting the
>>>> gas, I put vessel directly on its specific place and checked also.
>>>> Suddenly my mum told, good Bijal, perfect. Everything was fine till
>>>> end.
>>>> But I faced one problem while adding vegetable in oil. Few drops of
>>>> oil spraided outside on the gas. I could not realized but my mum
>>>> inform me. I am always taking care to do this. Still want suggestions
>>>> from you all.
>>>> Bijal.
>>>> On 7/13/12, prateek aggarwal <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Well, folks, I’ve been reading this thread since yesterday, and  got
>>>>> really amazed to see so many terrific and useful responses and tips.
>>>>> I’m one of those atypical men who’ve got hobby  of cooking, although I
>>>>> do not get those many chances to groom it due to the hectic work
>>>>> schedule and  denial from family.
>>>>> i love cooking things like sandwitches, beverages, cakes, maggy, rice,
>>>>> salids,  dried snacks, and selected vegetables (curries).
>>>>> During the process,  I do use different kinds of  appliances, vessels
>>>>> and ingredients  and manage to successfully prepare the dishes.
>>>>> Through this email, I’d like to tell my fellow list mates that cooking
>>>>> is not that difficult if you once prepare yourself for the minimal
>>>>> risks of mishap that may occur due to the unavailability of sighte.
>>>>> Although I don’t use any of them, but there are a good number of
>>>>> assistive devices and technologies available which may ease your
>>>>> potential problem (s) and allow you to accessibly cook delicious food
>>>>> with no special risks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Coming to lightening up the gas, I always  light  the gas first, and
>>>>> then put the vessel on it.
>>>>> This, makes it easier for me to properly adjust the position of the
>>>>> vessel allowing it to receive the proper heat that’s being produced by
>>>>> the gas.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cooking without looking is certainty an art, and requires several
>>>>> extra efforts in order to do the things efficiently.
>>>>> From my limited personal experiences with it, I found out that its
>>>>> really important for a visually impaired person to keep all the senses
>>>>> open while cooking.
>>>>> For instance, every operation produces a specific sound, and if you
>>>>> can track down what sounds how  and why, it makes the things very easy
>>>>> for you.
>>>>> Boiling of milk and water, boiling of different vegetables, frying,
>>>>> baking, mashing, tosting etc, all have different and specific sounds
>>>>> associated with them,  and once you master the art of understanding
>>>>> them,  you’d find a drastic improvement in your confidence and
>>>>> efficiency.
>>>>>
>>>>> Similarly, keeping your touch sense open to feel and analyse various
>>>>> things and their textures and keeping the smelling sense open to
>>>>> measure  so many things helps a great way too.
>>>>>
>>>>> One of the biggest problems that I’ve personally had was about
>>>>> cutting, peeling, crushing and chopping vegetables,  which if not done
>>>>> wit concentration may consequence finger and arm injuries.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, I’ve had   severe troubles  in identifying and remembering the
>>>>> textures, smells  and positions of various spices,  that look very
>>>>> confusing at the outset.
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess that the practice and self confidence is the key to be
>>>>> efficient in cooking.
>>>>> I myself am not one,  but I’m learning from my own mistakes,
>>>>> experiences and of course the extremely valuable advises and guidance
>>>>> from many experts available on this list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, and one of the most severe challenges that I’m facing is the
>>>>> denial  from family,  as my mom does not allow me to cook that much,
>>>>> but I’ve been fortunate  enough to be able to learn the same from some
>>>>> good friends, and still learning it.
>>>>> please get in touch for anything you believe I can help with.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On a lighter note, all those who’d like to eat the food cooked by me
>>>>> on their own risk are much welcome! ☺
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Prateek agarwal.
>>>>> Managing director,
>>>>> Daedal technovations pvt. Ltd.
>>>>> www.daedaltechnovations.com
>>>>>
>>>>> website:
>>>>> http://www.prateekagarwal.webs.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Original message ----------
>>>>> From: "amritpal singh" <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>> Cc:
>>>>> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 11:40:50 +0530
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Query for cooking area...
>>>>> Can you place the link of this audio book on send space or drop box?
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "mukesh jain"
>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 12:45 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Query for cooking area...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello, I have the audio book called cooking without looking. I don’t
>>>>> know about the method of cooking on gase but certainly by reading this
>>>>> book I have learnt few small recipies on microwave oven. this is the
>>>>> Great resource for the visually impaired to have the knowledge of
>>>>> cooking technics. I don’t know sharing the link for this book would be
>>>>> allowed on the list so if you are interested to listen to  this book
>>>>> then kindly contact me off the list. kindly
>>>>> Author: Esther Knudson Tipps,
>>>>>
>>>>> Cooking methods and techniques developed through research at the Texas
>>>>> School for the Blind. In addition to recipes, the book gives basic
>>>>> principles of meal planning, marketing, food preparation, table
>>>>> service, and food storage.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any way, I would like to share few links amongst you on this topic
>>>>> which will let you download the accessible guide in text format,  view
>>>>> important tips, technics and ideas  for cooking in context to the
>>>>> persons with visual impairment.
>>>>> http://www.perkins.org/resources/scout/cooking-and-kitchen-safety/
>>>>>
>>>>> http://chocolateandzucchini.com/archives/2008/10/how_the_blind_cook.php
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.afb.org/section.aspx?SectionID=40&TopicID=217&DocumentID=2229
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.tafn.org.uk/kitchen/cookery.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.nfb.org/Images/nfb/Publications/fr/fr04/Issue3/f040304.html
>>>>>
>>>>> hope this may be of some use.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/12/12, Asudani, Rajesh <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Well, Mamta, nicely explained.
>>>>> But why don't you put the vessel first on the gas and then light the
>>>>> gas?
>>>>> At least I did it in my rudimentary attempts to make tea, rice etc. in
>>>>> days
>>>>> gone by.
>>>>> Now, thankfully, I am relieved of all such chores by my sweet wife, but
>>>>> I
>>>>> do
>>>>> appreciate that all should learn at least rudimentary cooking skills
>>>>> for
>>>>> a
>>>>> rainy day...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of mamta
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 11:21 AM
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Query for cooking area...
>>>>>
>>>>> Well Hi dear Bijal,
>>>>>
>>>>> Cooking involved a lot of tips and tricks.
>>>>> I my self cook daily as far as cooking is concern mostly 2 times a day
>>>>> in
>>>>> the morning  that is Tiffin's for office and then at night which is
>>>>> extensive cooking.
>>>>>
>>>>> well as far as rice is concern,
>>>>> you can cook it in the pressure cooker or a electric rice cooker. or in
>>>>> a
>>>>> normal pot as well.
>>>>> same with dal mostly first boil in the pressure cooker. then we can
>>>>> cook
>>>>> it
>>>>> in a pot as well.
>>>>> as far as vegetable is concern use pots or pans instead.
>>>>>
>>>>> the method which I use to keep any type of vessel on the gas is that.
>>>>> first its like this. most of these things will only come out of
>>>>> practice.
>>>>> however hard I will try  to explain to you it will not be as effective
>>>>> as
>>>>> you practicing it. well so its time and practice. what you can do that.
>>>>> at first tell mom at I will make one dish per day. start from something
>>>>> simple.
>>>>> keep the fear out of your mind that I will get burnt or something will
>>>>> happen to me.
>>>>> be confident that I will do it.
>>>>> keep the ingredient of what ever you want to make ready before hand in
>>>>> front
>>>>> of you I mean near you as your hand can reach to grab it easily to put
>>>>> it
>>>>> in
>>>>> the vessel to cook.
>>>>> as you will not have much time once the gas is on to go and find it so
>>>>> you
>>>>> have to know the lay out of your kitchen very perfectly.
>>>>>
>>>>> then before lighting the gas feel it and touch it just when its empty
>>>>> feel
>>>>> the distance between you and the gas very perfectly.
>>>>> practice keeping the empty vessel on the off gas many times may be 10
>>>>> times
>>>>> or so.
>>>>> and then now light the gas and keep the vessel in the same way.
>>>>> Normally I use my right hand to on the gas I mean to turn the knob of
>>>>> the
>>>>> gas on and the left hand for pressing the button of the lighter.
>>>>>
>>>>> once its on I just keep the lighter on its place and keep the vessel on
>>>>> the
>>>>> gas to get hot with my left hand it self.
>>>>> mean while with the right hand I grab oil and other ingredients and
>>>>> bring
>>>>> them in front of me and start to put one by one as its turn comes.
>>>>> that will happen with you once you can find out from your mom that when
>>>>> to
>>>>> put what and may be she may have some sequences for you.
>>>>> at first you can also practice like your mom standing with you and
>>>>> giving
>>>>> you things one by one to put. you only do the putting and cooking.
>>>>> that will first make you confident in cooking and then you can practice
>>>>> other things like material finding later.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can help to teach you and there are so many things to say about
>>>>> cooking
>>>>> that I just do not understand that what to write and what not to.
>>>>> but just remember that you have to be safe first. I mean that while
>>>>> cooking
>>>>> you will always you will have to have a cotton  cloth I mean a napkin
>>>>> at
>>>>> hand for catching the vessel if its moving from its place or you have
>>>>> to
>>>>> move it any where even a little bit.
>>>>> do not wait for it to fall or tilt completely.
>>>>> it can hurt you. I mean the hot oil can spill and you can be hurt by
>>>>> that.
>>>>> if you at all feel any danger at any time the first thing is just close
>>>>> the
>>>>> gas from the knob and then touch and feel with the help of the napkin
>>>>> that
>>>>> what is wrong and what to do to rectify it. may be the vessel may need
>>>>> you
>>>>> to keep it properly if its shifted by mistake even a little bit.
>>>>> lets see that how much this will help you.
>>>>> do you even understand what I have to say?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope that I am clear.
>>>>>
>>>>> if anything then do feel free to write back to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rgds
>>>>>
>>>>> Mamta.
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "bijal patel" <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: "accessindia" <[email protected]>; "list"
>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 9:53 PM
>>>>> Subject: [AI] Query for cooking area...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>> Since long I have been observing there is no thread regarding in the
>>>>> area of cooking for vi people on such mailing list. It's also the most
>>>>> powerful and necessary independent skill for us. Well, Nowadays my
>>>>> mummy is teaching me to cook. I am late blind, so she is confused
>>>>> somewhere how to treat me in this learning process, but still better
>>>>> then earlier.
>>>>> I am unable to adjust vessel properly on gas after burning the gas.
>>>>> After practising, it's also good then previous, but still everytime  I
>>>>> have fear of falling vessel while cooking. Is there special tips or
>>>>> tricks for this?
>>>>> This is very practical subject, so will any blind female who knows
>>>>> cooking share contact number with me?
>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>> Any guidelines will be highly appreciated in this regard.
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> Bijal Patel.
>>>>>
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