Hi,

One issue that I face while using NVDA is that the symbols dialog box
is inaccessible. Since this is something that I use all the time, it
becomes a great challenge for me. If the label associated with the
symbol could be read out, it would be great.

Best,

On 9/7/13, Dipendra Manocha <[email protected]> wrote:
> Insert b command reads the entire window. The command works the same way as
> in NVDA too.
>
> You could also use review keys to read the text in window line by line.
>
> Thanks
> Dipendra
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> Of Renuka Warriar Edakkunni
> Sent: 07 September 2013 11:47
> To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
> phones
> and Tabs.
> Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE
>
> Hello,
> I have one doubt.  In JAWS, the download or copying status could be checked
> with the command insert+b, but I couldn't do it in NVDA.  Is there any
> mechanism to do it in NVDA.  If no, my suggestion is to get it done.
>
> Renuka.
>
> On 9/7/13, Dipendra Manocha <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Scripting is cool framework to enhance capabilities of jaws. How ever,
>> it is new language for many and to get jaws configured for speicif
>> requirements, we could hardly find people who could do jaws scripting.
>>
>> With NVDA development team development, we are trying to create a pool
>> of knowledge resource that could help us deal with such situations.
>>
>> I hope once this project becomes a movement, more python developers
>> would be able to fix and address special configuration issues at much
>> faster pace.
>>
>> I am amazed at the number of projects going on in India itself who try
>> to develop tools for blind for computers. If these teams become
>> contributors to NVDa project, we may end up having an army to deal
>> with.
>>
>> This may happen if as users we ask for NVDA when we come to providing
>> accessibility to computers.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Dipendra
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> Behalf Of Mahesh S. Panicker
>> Sent: 06 September 2013 20:05
>> To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
>> phones and Tabs.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE
>>
>> Over the last year or so, I have been trying to use more and more of
>> NVDA though Jaws remains my primary screen reader. As so many people
>> have already pointed out, the Jaws cursor like functionality is a
>> difficult part. As Harish Ji has already pointed out, the steps are
>> not as complicated as they might sound , but it is difficult to
>> understand at first, particularly for a Jaws user.
>> Another issue is with Jaws scripts, life is made so much easier with
>> Jaws with applications like Skype and GoogleTalk. Jaws can kind of
>> work with these applications, particularly the former without scripts
>> but not that well. I find the experience is same with NVDA, if they
>> could integrate the functionalities provided by Jaws Scripts to NVDA
>> as well, things could become a lot better.
>> Another thing might be specific to my style of use. I like the Jaws
>> function of Jaws key + Enter moving the web page by a few frames,
>> particularly useful when reading newspapers and such stuff. Has to
>> keep arrowing down in NVDA and that is something I really don't like.
>> This is a wonderful initiative and I hope NVDA continues to evolve and
>> go from strength to strength.
>>
>> On 9/6/13, Ashik <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I was also thinking of the same. A nice tutorial is necessary for us.
>>> I listened to the tutorial available, but I could not get much of it.
>>> I have nothing against the tutor, but the fact remains that we need a
>>> better tutorial. Dependar sir is requestted to develop one such
>>> tutorial.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Kotian, H P" <[email protected]>
>>> To: "Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of
>>> mobile phonesand Tabs. " <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 1:00 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Dipendra
>>>>
>>>> Although the steps in reality are really simple once you do it
>>>> yourself, while reading about it it seems something that is not my
>>>> cup
>> for most.
>>>>
>>>> What I would suggest, is to make a small specific podcast with an
>>>> example
>>>>
>>>> which are carried out both in Jaws and NVDA for this specific task.
>>>>
>>>> Once folks get the concept of object navigation right they will
>>>> automatically get convinced about the utility of NVDA is a good
>>>> screen reader.
>>>>
>>>> Harish Kotian
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On
>>>> Behalf Of Dipendra Manocha
>>>> Sent: 06 September 2013 12:47
>>>> To: 'Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of
>>>> mobile phones and Tabs. '
>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING
>>>> SOFTWARE
>>>>
>>>> Review cursor is already always active.
>>>>
>>>> You do not need to activate it as you do with jaws.
>>>>
>>>> NVDA+arrow keys moves review cursor in current selected frame or as
>>>> NVDA+NVDA
>>>> calls it: inside the object.
>>>>
>>>> By increasing definition of frame to whole window, SAME COMMANDS DO
>>>> EXACTLY WHAT JAWS CURSOR IS DOING.
>>>>
>>>> WHEN YOU REACH ANY OF THE BUTTON WHICH NEED TO BE ACTIVATED, YOU CAN
>>>> SIMPLY PRESS NVDA+enter to activate the button under review cursor.
>>>>
>>>> In addition to this NVDA also provides audio feedback of movement of
>>>> actual mouse pointer.
>>>>
>>>> You can also route mouse pointer to review cursor or to the
>>>> insersion pointer. Then activate left or right mouse clicks.
>>>>
>>>> With these tips, I would encourage you to go through the user manual
>>>> which describes all these featues very well.
>>>>
>>>> There are also audio tutorials available for use of NVDA and link to
>>>> these can be found at nvaccess.org web site itself.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Dipendra
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On
>>>> Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma
>>>> Sent: 06 September 2013 07:39
>>>> To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of
>>>> mobilephones and Tabs.
>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING
>>>> SOFTWARE
>>>>
>>>> sir, what is the alternate of jaws and invisible cursore in NVDA?
>>>> suppose
>>>>
>>>> I
>>>> want to press the close button with a jaws cursore, I can easily do
>>>> it. i could not find the same in NVDA.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Dipendra Manocha" <[email protected]>
>>>> To: "accessindia" <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 11:24 PM
>>>> Subject: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Access-Indians
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to share a very exciting development in the area of
>>>>> Screen Reading software. As you all know that NVDA is an open
>>>>> source screen reading software that can be downloaded free of cost
>>>>> from nvaccess.org web site.
>>>>> Its
>>>>> latest version is 2013-2 released just few days ago. There are some
>>>>> good developments related to NVDA here in India.
>>>>>
>>>>> First; A development team is now working right here in India
>>>>> contributing new features and improving the screen reading software.
>>>>> The  team is lead by one of our brightest software developer who
>>>>> himself is a screen reading software user. He is Mr. Manish Agrawal.
>>>>> Manish works full time with Sapient Technologies at very senior
>>>>> knowledge resource and he now gives 40% of his time specifically to
>>>>> the NVDA project. He is supported by one more dedicated developer
>>>>> and also very experienced screen reading software tester.
>>>>>
>>>>> IIT Delhi is also putting a team together to work under Manish to
>>>>> contribute in development of NVDA.
>>>>>
>>>>> All these efforts are under a joint project being implemented by
>>>>> CIS and Saksham and supported by enable-India. Thanks to Hans
>>>>> Foundation to provide financial support to run this project.
>>>>>
>>>>> Specific objective of getting a team here in India is to work on
>>>>> priorities set by users in India. The team started its work by
>>>>> concentrating on improving performance of NVDA in Microsoft office
>>>>> applications. Some of the remarkable improvements that Indian team
>>>>> contributed to NVDA include:
>>>>>
>>>>> Added sentence reading command
>>>>> Improved paragraph reading command performance specially with
>>>>> bullets and auto numbering Reading of protected documents in MS
>>>>> word Announcement of suggestions in microsoft outlook in to or cc
>>>>> fields Improvements of speech output in spell check dialogue box
>>>>> Reading of status bar im all office 2010 applications Etc...
>>>>> This list is growing fast and we can all appreciate that how
>>>>> important these features are for us.
>>>>>
>>>>> More important is that we now have developers who are very willing
>>>>> to listen to us and work on what we think are most important
>>>>> features for us in our jobs or educational environments. For
>>>>> example, One major reason due to which I myself was not able to
>>>>> switch to NVDA was that it did not announce auto complete
>>>>> suggestions of mail IDs in Microsoft outlook. Global team had this
>>>>> a very low priority because they always suggested to use
>>>>> thunderbird instead of MS Outlook. I could not make that shift due
>>>>> to my company policy and responsibilities. Indian development team
>>>>> fixed this issue and for past few months I am working very happily
>>>>> full time with NVDA as my full time screen reading software. What
>>>>> this team now wants is that the priorities of bug fixes or new
>>>>> feature requests should be set by the users themselves. So, here
>>>>> comes the opportunity to make a screen reading software work where
>>>>> we find that it is not working. If you would like to report an
>>>>> problem that you are facing use of NVDA or you feel NVDA is not
>>>>> providing information
>> that you need, please report it to:
>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>
>>>>> Normally there are three releases of NVDA every year. How-ever, if
>>>>> you would like to try out builds of version that NVDA development
>>>>> team in India is releasing, write to Suman with this intension on
>>>>> the e-mail provided above.
>>>>> These releases are issued after every bug fix. These are not
>>>>> ensured for stability and thus only those who would like to test
>>>>> out the new features and provide feedback should get into this mode
>>>>> of using
>> NVDA.
>>>>>
>>>>> Last but not the least, We are getting very close of provide
>>>>> licenses of Eloquence to work with NVDA along with the license of
>>>>> Sangita and Vocaliser voices. Saksham will be providing these
>>>>> licenses in a few weeks to come after testing stability of whole
>>>>> new
>> licensing system.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will also be writing soon about what is being done to add all
>>>>> Indian languages in E-speak TTS. So, keep watch in this area as lot
>>>>> of exciting developments are happening here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wishing everyone all the best and a happy teacher's day.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dipendra Manocha
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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