Hello! As far as I know regarding NVDA, instead of jaws I have tasted many payed screen reader like windows eyes, thunder, etc but perhaps those screen reader might be more powerful even then jaws, but I didn't like those screen reader cause I couldn't understand the feature of those screen reader clearly, and keyboard command was also very tricky. But I felt jaws and NVDA is only the program which can support number of popular application. And if I considered regarding the portability of screen reader, I like NVDA much, cause we can use NVDA along with eloquence voice in any computer without installing them. Till now we can not expect another cursor like jaws or invisible cursor in NVDA, but perhaps things will going to be change soon. cause in order to access another cursor from the keyboard along with speech, it need its own display driver which NVDA doesn't have right now. Jaws is using "video intersept" software, which require to install in computer if you are using the portable jaws as his display driver. Therefore I believe that we have to rely on the NVDA cursor which is review cursor or object navigation. And another things should be included in the NVDA package is that, as jaws how one can create his or her own required addons using python language.
-----Original Message----- From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mahesh S. Panicker Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 8:05 PM To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phonesand Tabs. Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE Over the last year or so, I have been trying to use more and more of NVDA though Jaws remains my primary screen reader. As so many people have already pointed out, the Jaws cursor like functionality is a difficult part. As Harish Ji has already pointed out, the steps are not as complicated as they might sound , but it is difficult to understand at first, particularly for a Jaws user. Another issue is with Jaws scripts, life is made so much easier with Jaws with applications like Skype and GoogleTalk. Jaws can kind of work with these applications, particularly the former without scripts but not that well. I find the experience is same with NVDA, if they could integrate the functionalities provided by Jaws Scripts to NVDA as well, things could become a lot better. Another thing might be specific to my style of use. I like the Jaws function of Jaws key + Enter moving the web page by a few frames, particularly useful when reading newspapers and such stuff. Has to keep arrowing down in NVDA and that is something I really don't like. This is a wonderful initiative and I hope NVDA continues to evolve and go from strength to strength. On 9/6/13, Ashik <[email protected]> wrote: > I was also thinking of the same. A nice tutorial is necessary for us. I > listened to the tutorial available, but I could not get much of it. I have > nothing against the tutor, but the fact remains that we need a better > tutorial. Dependar sir is requestted to develop one such tutorial. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kotian, H P" <[email protected]> > To: "Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile > phonesand Tabs. " <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 1:00 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE > > >> Hi Dipendra >> >> Although the steps in reality are really simple once you do it yourself, >> while reading about it it seems something that is not my cup for most. >> >> What I would suggest, is to make a small specific podcast with an example >> >> which are carried out both in Jaws and NVDA for this specific task. >> >> Once folks get the concept of object navigation right they will >> automatically get convinced about the utility of NVDA is a good screen >> reader. >> >> Harish Kotian >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Dipendra Manocha >> Sent: 06 September 2013 12:47 >> To: 'Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile >> phones and Tabs. ' >> Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE >> >> Review cursor is already always active. >> >> You do not need to activate it as you do with jaws. >> >> NVDA+arrow keys moves review cursor in current selected frame or as NVDA >> calls it: inside the object. >> >> By increasing definition of frame to whole window, SAME COMMANDS DO >> EXACTLY >> WHAT JAWS CURSOR IS DOING. >> >> WHEN YOU REACH ANY OF THE BUTTON WHICH NEED TO BE ACTIVATED, YOU CAN >> SIMPLY >> PRESS NVDA+enter to activate the button under review cursor. >> >> In addition to this NVDA also provides audio feedback of movement of >> actual >> mouse pointer. >> >> You can also route mouse pointer to review cursor or to the insersion >> pointer. Then activate left or right mouse clicks. >> >> With these tips, I would encourage you to go through the user manual >> which >> describes all these featues very well. >> >> There are also audio tutorials available for use of NVDA and link to >> these >> can be found at nvaccess.org web site itself. >> >> Thanks >> Dipendra >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf >> Of bhawani shankar verma >> Sent: 06 September 2013 07:39 >> To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of >> mobilephones >> and Tabs. >> Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE >> >> sir, what is the alternate of jaws and invisible cursore in NVDA? suppose >> >> I >> want to press the close button with a jaws cursore, I can easily do it. i >> could not find the same in NVDA. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dipendra Manocha" <[email protected]> >> To: "accessindia" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 11:24 PM >> Subject: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE >> >> >>> Dear Access-Indians >>> >>> I would like to share a very exciting development in the area of >>> Screen Reading software. As you all know that NVDA is an open source >>> screen reading software that can be downloaded free of cost from >>> nvaccess.org web site. >>> Its >>> latest version is 2013-2 released just few days ago. There are some >>> good developments related to NVDA here in India. >>> >>> First; A development team is now working right here in India >>> contributing new features and improving the screen reading software. >>> The team is lead by one of our brightest software developer who >>> himself is a screen reading software user. He is Mr. Manish Agrawal. >>> Manish works full time with Sapient Technologies at very senior >>> knowledge resource and he now gives 40% of his time specifically to >>> the NVDA project. He is supported by one more dedicated developer and >>> also very experienced screen reading software tester. >>> >>> IIT Delhi is also putting a team together to work under Manish to >>> contribute in development of NVDA. >>> >>> All these efforts are under a joint project being implemented by CIS >>> and Saksham and supported by enable-India. Thanks to Hans Foundation >>> to provide financial support to run this project. >>> >>> Specific objective of getting a team here in India is to work on >>> priorities set by users in India. The team started its work by >>> concentrating on improving performance of NVDA in Microsoft office >>> applications. Some of the remarkable improvements that Indian team >>> contributed to NVDA include: >>> >>> Added sentence reading command >>> Improved paragraph reading command performance specially with bullets >>> and auto numbering Reading of protected documents in MS word >>> Announcement of suggestions in microsoft outlook in to or cc fields >>> Improvements of speech output in spell check dialogue box Reading of >>> status bar im all office 2010 applications Etc... >>> This list is growing fast and we can all appreciate that how important >>> these features are for us. >>> >>> More important is that we now have developers who are very willing to >>> listen to us and work on what we think are most important features for >>> us in our jobs or educational environments. For example, One major >>> reason due to which I myself was not able to switch to NVDA was that >>> it did not announce auto complete suggestions of mail IDs in Microsoft >>> outlook. Global team had this a very low priority because they always >>> suggested to use thunderbird instead of MS Outlook. I could not make >>> that shift due to my company policy and responsibilities. Indian >>> development team fixed this issue and for past few months I am working >>> very happily full time with NVDA as my full time screen reading >>> software. What this team now wants is that the priorities of bug fixes >>> or new feature requests should be set by the users themselves. So, >>> here comes the opportunity to make a screen reading software work >>> where we find that it is not working. If you would like to report an >>> problem that you are facing use of NVDA or you feel NVDA is not >>> providing information that you need, please report it to: >>> [email protected] >>> >>> Normally there are three releases of NVDA every year. How-ever, if you >>> would like to try out builds of version that NVDA development team in >>> India is releasing, write to Suman with this intension on the e-mail >>> provided above. >>> These releases are issued after every bug fix. These are not ensured >>> for stability and thus only those who would like to test out the new >>> features and provide feedback should get into this mode of using NVDA. >>> >>> Last but not the least, We are getting very close of provide licenses >>> of Eloquence to work with NVDA along with the license of Sangita and >>> Vocaliser voices. Saksham will be providing these licenses in a few >>> weeks to come after testing stability of whole new licensing system. >>> >>> I will also be writing soon about what is being done to add all Indian >>> languages in E-speak TTS. So, keep watch in this area as lot of >>> exciting developments are happening here. >>> >>> Wishing everyone all the best and a happy teacher's day. >>> >>> Dipendra Manocha >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing >>> accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: >>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_acc >>> essindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> Search for old postings at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> [email protected] >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please visit the list home page at >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org >>> .in >>> >>> >>> Disclaimer: >>> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking >>> of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its >>> veracity; >>> >>> 2. 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