if somebody supporting modi, it doesn't mean you should offend him/her
personally. you might also be supporting any of the party/political
leader, if, someone attacks  you personally, then how would you feel?

On 4/27/14, akshun mahajan <[email protected]> wrote:
> if u have very good experience with her then congratulation.
> i have shared my experienced.
> everybody has different experience with different person.
> if u feel statement made by her is good sso what can i say?
>
>
> On 4/27/14, Shadab Husain <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Kanchan ma'am has helped me often without any return. Rare are people so
>> forthright and helpful.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On 26-Apr-2014, at 6:50 pm, akshun mahajan <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> hi friends i tell u very interesting thing about kanchan mam.
>>> people r different in platform and totally different in real life.
>>>
>>> i read her mails many time she is saying whenever u need help u call
>>> me and now she is saying disable has not agitate or she seems to be
>>> well wisher of blind.
>>> when i invited her for discussion over a critical issue. there is
>>> problem in mumbai. one girl was  loosing job so she replied that
>>> kindly take me out of these  issues and she further said i got fed up
>>> with the issue of blind.
>>> if we have these sort of people for our welfare   so ho gya welfare.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 4/26/14, Praful Vyas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Dear Avinash,
>>>>
>>>> I fully agree with Kanchan.
>>>> Mr. Modi became a chief minister, immediately started many scheme for
>>>> persons with disabilities namely "Mahrshi Astravakra C B R" and
>>>> allotted
>>>> 70
>>>>
>>>> Corrodes rupees. 2 Sant Surdas scheme. etc.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Praful Vyas.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Kanchan Pamnani" <[email protected]>
>>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
>>>> issuesconcerning
>>>> thedisabled." <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 5:27 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Help needed from friends in Gujarat for an article
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Avinash,
>>>>> I really dont have an answer to what you need to know but I have some
>>>>> observations to make:
>>>>> 1. No government can really make a difference for the better  unless
>>>>> we
>>>>> raise our voices asking for improvement. Compared to other parts of
>>>>> India-Gujrat seems to be quieter in the last 10 years. So  was this
>>>>> calm
>>>>> because it was a great State or because we didnt agitate enough I cant
>>>>> say. Your article will reflect this though my personal bet is that the
>>>>> Disabled did not agitate much nor did the NGOs look at the problems of
>>>>> identification, backlog, promotions etc. I could be wrong and I will
>>>>> be
>>>>> happy to be corrected.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Bhaskar Mehta a blind person was the State Commissioner for part of
>>>>> these 10 years. This was much before Mr. Pincha took charge in Delhi.
>>>>> I
>>>>> guess one plus point for the Mody government.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. I have heard but I cannot confirm this -Mr. Mody used to be a
>>>>> volunteer
>>>>>
>>>>> at BPA and used to read to theVI long before he became a person of
>>>>> prominance. If true then he has some knowledge of the problems.
>>>>> 4. The assistant teachers problem has existed in many states and the
>>>>> High
>>>>>
>>>>> Courts have been hearing these matters across the country. I  can
>>>>> recall
>>>>> the same problem in Karnataka, West Bengal and Gujrat. This is the
>>>>> agitation you are referring to.
>>>>> 5. If I compare the information I have from Gujrat and the work in
>>>>> Maharashtra then I would say that we  in maharashtra are in constant
>>>>> battle- agitation, court cases, representations etc. I do not see this
>>>>> in
>>>>>
>>>>> Gujrat and many other states.
>>>>>
>>>>> 6. Has Mr. Mody's government given us good footpaths, good ramps and
>>>>> pedistrian crossings on those great roads that we hear of?
>>>>>
>>>>> 7. If you really want to do this article you will have to speak with
>>>>> some
>>>>>
>>>>> of our list members who will have an opinion but wont bother to write.
>>>>> Also you will have to speak with the 2 big NGOs of Ahmedabad -BPA and
>>>>> Sense International.Then to get the realistic picture many more will
>>>>> have
>>>>>
>>>>> to be identified.
>>>>> 8. Sometimes we forget in the Rights based approach that the Charity
>>>>> model
>>>>>
>>>>> has also helped. NGOs get some funds from the State. If these funds
>>>>> are
>>>>> not released on time then the NGOs cannot render services and the
>>>>> beneficiaries do not get training, education etc. therefore it is not
>>>>> only
>>>>>
>>>>> the CM but the minister in charge and the bureaucrats of the social
>>>>> justice ministry, the Commissioner, the Judges etc who determine the
>>>>> fate
>>>>>
>>>>> of the disabled of the State.
>>>>>
>>>>> 9. There are some instances from Gujrat of the Disabled having
>>>>> difficulties withboarding trains and other transport. These must be
>>>>> blamed
>>>>>
>>>>> on the government but on which government? Has anything been done
>>>>> after
>>>>> these incidents or are these never going to be repeated again!
>>>>> 10. If you are thinking of what to expect at the Centre in case Mr.
>>>>> Mody
>>>>> becomes PM, then be rest assured it wont be any different from the
>>>>> current
>>>>>
>>>>> government.We have won many battles because we agitated, wrote
>>>>> letters,
>>>>> fought in court, made a public noise and did everything advocacy
>>>>> teaches
>>>>> us. We have also done some of this work with the current Oppposition
>>>>> so
>>>>> they are also quite aware and will hopefully take off without much
>>>>> prodding,agitation and representation.Whoever becomes PM and whoever
>>>>> becomes the Social Justice Minister please dont expect miracles or a
>>>>> bad
>>>>> showing. We will learn to live with the new government and we will
>>>>> learn
>>>>> to press the right buttons.
>>>>> Best of luck I would love to read your article.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kanchan Pamnani
>>>>> Advocate & Solicitor
>>>>> 9, Suleman Chambers,
>>>>> Battery Street, Colaba,
>>>>> Mumbai - 400 039.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "avinash shahi" <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>>> concerningthe disabled." <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 2:36 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Help needed from friends in Gujarat for an article
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Listen gentlemen there's something called Oral history and oral
>>>>>> testomony.
>>>>>> I have talked to people I have with me Gujarat High Court's judgment
>>>>>> and news clip where five blind sat on fast when they were  not
>>>>>> getting
>>>>>> appointed as an assisstant teachers in the state.
>>>>>> Poor Indians can speak but are deprived of education and writing
>>>>>> skills; it doesn't mean we discount their oral revelations.
>>>>>> If you can't provide documents of improvement in the lives of
>>>>>> disabled
>>>>>> there, better refrain from intervention and don't attempt to turn the
>>>>>> discourse from its original objective.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/26/14, jignesh thakur <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> You have abused enough to Gujarat and modi, without any data.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Still you need more material to abuse more?
>>>>>>> Please use your talent and energy in proper work.
>>>>>>> Abusing modi and Gujarat won't solve any purpose.
>>>>>>> And wait for some time, you will have to ask for national data after
>>>>>>> 16th
>>>>>>> may.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/25/14, avinash shahi <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Please friends from Gujarat, I need your favour, I need any
>>>>>>>> report/article/book/research which talks about How persons with
>>>>>>>> disabilities have experienced empowerment or its contrary in
>>>>>>>> Gujarat
>>>>>>>> since Narender Modi is the Cheif Minister of the State? help me, my
>>>>>>>> e-mail id: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Avinash Shahi
>>>>>>>> M.Phil Research Scholar
>>>>>>>> Centre for The Study of Law and Governance
>>>>>>>> Jawaharlal Nehru University
>>>>>>>> New Delhi India
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Avinash Shahi
>>>>>> M.Phil Research Scholar
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>>>>>> Jawaharlal Nehru University
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