Hi,
Think globally, not locally.
Do not assume your scenario implies to all.
Why to set one language and work to other?
What is wrong to set the particular voice in which you are working.


On 5/19/14, Maheshinder Singh Khosla <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dear Amiyo,
> Press the key combination
> Insert + control and letter v.
> Choose the language on which you want to work and press enter.
>
> Thanks
>
> Maheshinder Singh Khosla
> Mobile "+91 97 811 20333"
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Amiyo Biswas" <[email protected]>
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
> thedisabled." <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 5:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily
>
>
>> Ok, how shall I choose a language and correctly inform NVDA that I am
>> using this language?
>>
>> With best Regards,
>> Amiyo Biswas
>> Cell: +91-9433464329
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Him Prasad Gautam" <[email protected]>
>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerningthe disabled." <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 3:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I also work in Espeak.
>>> You said that you your self can judge whether you are working in Hindi
>>> or Bengali or English.
>>> This is not a fault of Espeak or screen reader.
>>> If you set the voice name as Bengali and type Hindi; you yourself are
>>> misinforming the screen reader. To set a voice means declaring that I
>>> am/will work in this language. Why to set one voice and work another
>>> one.
>>> It is a lie declaration!
>>> The announcement of the language is only while typing a text or
>>> navigation of the character.
>>> In a plain reading it is not announcing the language of the text.
>>> Hence no question of disturbance.
>>> It is not annoying you but is serving its duty with loyalty that it is
>>> reminding you that your default voice is different and working in
>>> another language.
>>>
>>> In case of your voice is in Bengali and the working language is also
>>> Bengali; you can say why to inform me?
>>> But if you are setting one language and working another one; it is
>>> your weakness.
>>> Think globally, not locally. A developer never thinks that the user
>>> may handle his/her system wrongly and have an address for individual
>>> working manner.
>>> If yu want to drive in a road, you have to drive the vehicle as the
>>> road is built.
>>>
>>> On 5/19/14, Amiyo Biswas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Ok, then talk to the ESpeak developpers. It is very irritating to hear
>>>> ESpeak saying Bengali ka and so on. I can understand that I am reading
>>>> Bengali, English or Hindi.
>>>>
>>>> With best Regards,
>>>> Amiyo Biswas
>>>> Cell: +91-9433464329
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Him Prasad Gautam" <[email protected]>
>>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>> concerningthe disabled." <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 5:16 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> The auto language detection   characteristics is not from nvda but it
>>>>> is from Espeak.
>>>>> Nvda does no thing on TTs.
>>>>> In brief you must understand that the selected voice and working
>>>>> language must be the same.
>>>>> Do not think that two or three language, espeak supports more than
>>>>> seventy languages.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/16/14, Bhavya shah <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> Dear Him Prasad Gautam  Sir,
>>>>>> I feel that NVDA developers should incorporate an option by which a
>>>>>> user can allow ESpeak to have no default language or can speak
>>>>>> everything without mentioning the language.
>>>>>> The user might have a document with two or more languages where he can
>>>>>> distinguish between the two languages himself.
>>>>>> Please inform me your views about this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/16/14, Him Prasad Gautam <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> there is a provision of auto language switch in nvda.
>>>>>>> Based on the letter,  the default nvda synthesizer  automatically
>>>>>>> detects the language. But if your voice is different than the
>>>>>>> language
>>>>>>> of use, it informs you that this letters belongs to this particular
>>>>>>> language.
>>>>>>> Take an example,
>>>>>>> For example; if you type a bengali ka while your voice is Hindi.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If nvda will say it is a Bengali ka, you will know what exactly the
>>>>>>> letter is. If it will not say Bengali ka, how will you  know whether
>>>>>>> it is a Hindi ka or Bengali ka?
>>>>>>> In brief, the nvda voice and the typing language must be the same.
>>>>>>> If different, it will inform you that the typing letter language
>>>>>>> belongs to the other language.
>>>>>>> nvda assumes that you use that language which is set voice.
>>>>>>> Setting a voice and working in other language is not consider a
>>>>>>> proper
>>>>>>> way.
>>>>>>> Change the voice to the regional language of India in which you work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/15/14, Dr.K. Viswanathan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> friends,
>>>>>>>> While typing n, v d a 2013/2014 utter the language name for each
>>>>>>>> letter;
>>>>>>>> for instance hindy क, hindy ख. When hindy opted as default, the
>>>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>>> solved. But, the problem stil continued in the regional language. It
>>>>>>>> should be notted that it was not in 2012.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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