Ok, i can distinguish if I am hearing Hindi or Bengali or English. Secondly,
I did not test whether NVDA can read three languages at the same time.
I admit that this feature may be useful. Can you do something to turn this
feature off?
With best Regards,
Amiyo Biswas
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From: "Him Prasad Gautam" <[email protected]>
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Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily
Hi,
In your explanation, please compulsory reply:
For example, you are reading a file.
The page contains three words.
One in Hindi, second in Bengali and third in Gujarati.
Mind here you are not typing any thing by yourself.
Just reading a multi-language words containing document.
Now, let us imagine that the three words are just your name written in
different language.
In each case, the same sound (i.e. your name) is said.
Please, gentle man, let me know;
How can you distinguished which word belongs to which language.
Only one answer, by seeing....
Do not mind, You are only. in context of writing mode by the users.
A feature should not take as a nonsense.
On 5/20/14, Amiyo Biswas <[email protected]> wrote:
I know this combination. It's not a solution. Perhaps I should explain a
little more. When I am reading Bengali text, it's ok. If I want to read
it
character by character, especially on the internet, it says Bengali ka
and
so on. However, old files written in Bengali Vrinda font, it's working
well.
There is another problem in reading Bengali. While reading, it says 0 for
any Bengali number. But I can read the number digit by digit. Then it
says
Bengali 1 etc.
I will request Him Prasad to check if it is some error on my part. For
example, the following Bengali daily may be checked:
www.anandabazar.com
With best Regards,
Amiyo Biswas
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thedisabled." <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily
Dear Amiyo,
Press the key combination
Insert + control and letter v.
Choose the language on which you want to work and press enter.
Thanks
Maheshinder Singh Khosla
Mobile "+91 97 811 20333"
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Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily
Ok, how shall I choose a language and correctly inform NVDA that I am
using this language?
With best Regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: +91-9433464329
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From: "Him Prasad Gautam" <[email protected]>
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Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily
Hi,
I also work in Espeak.
You said that you your self can judge whether you are working in Hindi
or Bengali or English.
This is not a fault of Espeak or screen reader.
If you set the voice name as Bengali and type Hindi; you yourself are
misinforming the screen reader. To set a voice means declaring that I
am/will work in this language. Why to set one voice and work another
one.
It is a lie declaration!
The announcement of the language is only while typing a text or
navigation of the character.
In a plain reading it is not announcing the language of the text.
Hence no question of disturbance.
It is not annoying you but is serving its duty with loyalty that it is
reminding you that your default voice is different and working in
another language.
In case of your voice is in Bengali and the working language is also
Bengali; you can say why to inform me?
But if you are setting one language and working another one; it is
your weakness.
Think globally, not locally. A developer never thinks that the user
may handle his/her system wrongly and have an address for individual
working manner.
If yu want to drive in a road, you have to drive the vehicle as the
road is built.
On 5/19/14, Amiyo Biswas <[email protected]> wrote:
Ok, then talk to the ESpeak developpers. It is very irritating to
hear
ESpeak saying Bengali ka and so on. I can understand that I am
reading
Bengali, English or Hindi.
With best Regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: +91-9433464329
----- Original Message -----
From: "Him Prasad Gautam" <[email protected]>
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Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 5:16 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily
Hi,
The auto language detection characteristics is not from nvda but
it
is from Espeak.
Nvda does no thing on TTs.
In brief you must understand that the selected voice and working
language must be the same.
Do not think that two or three language, espeak supports more than
seventy languages.
On 5/16/14, Bhavya shah <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Him Prasad Gautam Sir,
I feel that NVDA developers should incorporate an option by which a
user can allow ESpeak to have no default language or can speak
everything without mentioning the language.
The user might have a document with two or more languages where he
can
distinguish between the two languages himself.
Please inform me your views about this.
On 5/16/14, Him Prasad Gautam <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
there is a provision of auto language switch in nvda.
Based on the letter, the default nvda synthesizer automatically
detects the language. But if your voice is different than the
language
of use, it informs you that this letters belongs to this
particular
language.
Take an example,
For example; if you type a bengali ka while your voice is Hindi.
If nvda will say it is a Bengali ka, you will know what exactly
the
letter is. If it will not say Bengali ka, how will you know
whether
it is a Hindi ka or Bengali ka?
In brief, the nvda voice and the typing language must be the same.
If different, it will inform you that the typing letter language
belongs to the other language.
nvda assumes that you use that language which is set voice.
Setting a voice and working in other language is not consider a
proper
way.
Change the voice to the regional language of India in which you
work.
On 5/15/14, Dr.K. Viswanathan <[email protected]>
wrote:
friends,
While typing n, v d a 2013/2014 utter the language name for each
letter;
for instance hindy क, hindy ख. When hindy opted as default, the
problem
solved. But, the problem stil continued in the regional language.
It
should be notted that it was not in 2012.
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