hi, Though I have almost an idea about your question, as my behavior I do not reply unless fully clear myself. I have a minor confusion on one condition and hence I did not wish to speak on this matter.
On 12/8/14, Vikas Kapoor <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello, I have one doubt pertaining to this PDF files issue. If I come > across > an image based PDF file and I get it read by ABBYY Fine Reader and save the > > read file as having text under the page image or text over the page image, > once I take the print out of the saved PDF file, will it print the original > > image text or the recognised text? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Him Prasad Gautam" <[email protected]> > To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues > concerningthe disabled." <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 12:08 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] How to deal with Malayalam PDF files? > > > hi, > Be clear. > 1. A pdf file may contain only textual material. It needs no ocr. > 2. A pdf file may contain only scanned material. It needs ocr. > 3. A pdf file may contain both textual and scanned material. To access > the textual material portion ocr is not necessary but for the scanned > material portion ocr is the only solution. > Again, be further clear. > apart pdf, these three condition are also equally applicable to other > file formats like MS word or MS power point etc. > > Now, What is jpg file? > First of all be clear: > there can be many format of scanned images. jpg, png are the example. > scanned material means a single block of image/photo as a single unit > which may contain the image of a letters and any other object. Hence > the term jpg as you are using must be substituted as scanned copy. > This is the appropriate word for image format. Among scanned copy > format, jpg is one of the type. The word scanned is like the word > toothpaste and the term jpg is like colgate or binaca! > ocr is the only solution for scanned copy. Hence jpg file can be > accessed if a ocr of that language is available. > hope it clears you. > Finally, as I understand, Malayalam ocr is the final solution of your > thirst. > > On 12/8/14, Mujeeb Rahman <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi Goutham, >> >> Thankfully my concern about the pdf files has been cleared. You have >> touched all the points in the needed depth. However, my request for >> 'How to read the jpg files' is yet to be answered. Would certainly >> appreciate you, if that too could be taught in the same way. >> >> >> On 12/6/14, Him Prasad Gautam <[email protected]> wrote: >>> hi, >>> Sorry, Still your question is a bit confusing. >>> What you mean by: Wanted to know the different ways to make the >>> Malayalam pdf files read by JAWS. >>> Do you mean how to make a pdf file? >>> Or >>> Do you mean how to make jaws capable to read a pdf file? >>> If your material is in textual format the pdf file will be in textual >>> pdf format and if a scanned image is in the file, it creates a scanned >>> pdf file. >>> Now be clear: >>> 1. If the pdf file contains textual materials; there are two condition >>> further. >>> a. If the text are written in non unicode format, jaws can not read it. >>> b. If the texts are written in unicode format, there is a way to make >>> jaws capable to read it. >>> 2. If the pdf file contains scanned (non-textual) material; again >>> there are two condition further. >>> a. If Malayalam OCR is developed ( I do not know); , jaws can be used >>> to read it. >>> b. If there is no Malayalam OCR, there is no way to access by VI user. >>> About your second question, How does a jpg file format differ from pdf? >>> >>> a jpg file is an scanned object like a photo or picture. >>> A pdf file may or may not contain the jpg image. >>> Hope it clears you. >>> >>> >>> On 12/6/14, Mujeeb Rahman <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Actually, I ment to raise two questions with this thread, which are as >>>> follows: >>>> 1. Wanted to know the different ways to make the Malayalam pdf files >>>> read by JAWS. >>>> 2. How does a jpg file format differ from pdf and to what extent will >>>> it support for us? >>>> >>>> Although you have done the answering proactively, thought of making it >>>> clear and hope at least now the questions have been vividly asked ! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12/3/14, Him Prasad Gautam <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> hi, >>>>> There is a bit confusion to me. >>>>> The subject speaks about pdf file and some where it talks about ocr >>>>> and jpg format. >>>>> Let me clear as far as I know. >>>>> 1. The pdf file may or may not be a scanned image (jpg) format. >>>>> 2. If the pdf file is not a scan copy, then no need of ocr. >>>>> 3. If the pdf file is a scanned copy, then ocr is the only option for >>>>> accessibility. >>>>> 4. if the ocr for the local language is not available, there is no way >>>>> out. >>>>> 5. Unfortunately, being a non Indian language speaker, I personally >>>>> have no idea in which languages the ocr are available! >>>>> 6. If there is no ocr in Malayalam, it must be developed That is the >>>>> only solution. >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> On 12/3/14, Mujeeb Rahman <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> So, it seems to have no way as far as Malayalam PDF files are >>>>>> concerned, right? What about jpg files? I'm talking about files of >>>>>> all >>>>>> type, not the particular Malayalam language. Please? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12/3/14, Mahesh S. Panicker <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> Jaws doesn't support Malayalam OCR anyways. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 12/3/14, Him Prasad Gautam <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> hi, >>>>>>>> Do you have a Malayalam OCR? As far as I know, the jaws built-in >>>>>>>> ocr >>>>>>>> system is not capable to detect Malayalam characters of jpg form. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 12/3/14, Mujeeb Rahman <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have been assigned some more responsibilities in the office, in >>>>>>>>> which one is to deal with Malayalam PDF files. So, wanted to know >>>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>> do we have any alternatives in this regard. Would be really >>>>>>>>> grateful, >>>>>>>>> if anybody could point out the way of reading jpg files too as am >>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>> good in performing the advanced OCR feature of JAWS. >>>>>>>>> I have Windows XP machine with JAWS 13 loaded on it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you for your any help. >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Mujeeb >>>>>>>>> "Fools rush in where angels fear to tread." >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Clean India Campaign: Let us also chip in! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing >>>>>>>>> accessibility >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> mobile phones / Tabs on: >>>>>>>>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Search for old postings at: >>>>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other >>>>>>>>> changes, >>>>>>>>> please >>>>>>>>> visit the list home page at >>>>>>>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Disclaimer: >>>>>>>>> 1. 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