Yes, we should immideatly write to the appropriate authorities to give
this card optional status. The circular is not clear, at one hand it
require railway consession certificate for making this card, on the
other hand they are not accepting the certificate anymore for booking
the ticket. Mean you need railway consession certificate just to avail
the ID card! So it is arbitrary.

On 4/10/15, vivek doddamani <[email protected]> wrote:
> Friends, disabled person who is living in big cities can obtain ID
> card but what about small towns or villages where they don't even know
> about ID cards they get concession certificate by nearby any disabled
> NGOs this order is very funny there should be optional about ID card.
> I have written in whatsap that anybody in Delhi have received ID card
> within one or two days I will provide clear picture of ID card.
> On 4/10/15, Mohib Anwar Rafay <[email protected]> wrote:
>> As I wrote earlier, first of all you need to procure railway
>> consession certificate to produce before GRM office, and then apply
>> for E card. Mean at the expiry of this e card after 5 years, again you
>> need to renew your railway consession certificate and then apply for
>> renewal of the card. Hahahahah
>>
>> On 4/10/15, Misbah <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> This circular is quite ridiculous, seems that the issuing authority is
>>> in complete dark about the laws and policies which governance disabled
>>> lives. He She knowingly/deliberately trying to understand railway
>>> concession certificate as proof of disablement. It will result in
>>> strengthening the physical and mental incarnation of people with
>>> disabilities who now will have to procure railway concession and than
>>> railway ID as well.
>>> This policy paralysis needs to convey to CCPD again.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/10/15, Mohib Anwar Rafay <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Quite funny. I am in Delhi for the time being, and I possess a
>>>> disability certificate that has been issued from one of the districts
>>>> hospital in uttar pradesh. while I own a railway consession
>>>> certificate that has been issued by NFB.
>>>> It mean if I intend to make this E card, I will have to travel to that
>>>> district where I made my disability certificate.
>>>> But here nowhere they have mentioned in the circular that you need to
>>>> firnish your disability certificate also. If they accept only railway
>>>> consession certificate for the purpose of this e card, I can apply
>>>> here in Delhi, because my consession certificate is from Delhi itself.
>>>>
>>>> On 4/10/15, vivek doddamani <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Friend, while submiting documents for ID car at DRM office we have to
>>>>> carry copies of Medical certificate issued by board if you are
>>>>> submiting in delhi then the medical certificate should be done in
>>>>> delhi they do not accept medical certificate of other states, the
>>>>> other documents are copy of newely done concession certificate, copy
>>>>> of 10th class for birth year proof, copy of adhar card or election
>>>>> card or any other card showing address proof, the main is application
>>>>> written to DRM northern railway zone for issuing ID card this
>>>>> application should be in two copies one copy they will give you
>>>>> receipt & do not forget to carry all originals of above mentioned
>>>>> documents they will verify & return back immediately, but I do not
>>>>> know how is the card & its size & i even do not know anyone has got
>>>>> this card here in Delhi.  t
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/10/15, Mohib Anwar Rafay <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> Hey Vivek, can you tell me whether they required disability
>>>>>> certificate also in original for the purpose of making your e card?
>>>>>> Because as per this circular, it is only the railway concession
>>>>>> certificate that need to be firnished.
>>>>>> What has been experience of other members in this regard.
>>>>>> One more thing, what to do if at ticket counter they refuse to accept
>>>>>> the certificate and insist upon producing new e card?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/10/15, vivek doddamani <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> I have applied for ID card on 26th February 2015 till date I have
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> received the ID card, but last week I had done my reservation by my
>>>>>>> new concession certificate in 3rd AC in Karnataka Express to & fro
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> Delhi University reservation counter but nobody objected to my
>>>>>>> concession certificate or even enquired about my ID card for online
>>>>>>> reservation, I even not sure any of our list members residing in
>>>>>>> Delhi
>>>>>>> or north India have received ID card till date.  If anybody has
>>>>>>> knowledge about ID card please write about their experience in
>>>>>>> booking
>>>>>>> online ticket.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/9/15, Mohib Anwar Rafay <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Interesting!!
>>>>>>>> Please read the following paras of this circular.
>>>>>>>> 1.      Physically Challenged Person entitled for Railway
>>>>>>>> concession
>>>>>>>> will approach nearest D.R.M. Office along with all the relevant
>>>>>>>> documents viz. Concession Certificate, Photo Identity proof, Date
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> Birth proof, Address proof and two passport size photographs
>>>>>>>> Para 2.      DRM office will get the Concession Certificate, IDs
>>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>> verified by Commercial Inspector, who will contact/visit the
>>>>>>>> hospital
>>>>>>>> which has issued the certificate for verifying the authenticity of
>>>>>>>> certificate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It mean you need only to produce the copy of railway concession
>>>>>>>> certificate and not the copy of your handicapped certificate! mean
>>>>>>>> thereby if someone hasn't made his concession certificate, or his
>>>>>>>> certificate is about to expire, first, he will have to make his
>>>>>>>> concession certificate so that he can apply for this E card!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Para 4,      At the time of issuing Photo Identity Card with unique
>>>>>>>> ID
>>>>>>>> number against a valid Concession Certificate, details of the card
>>>>>>>> issued will be endorsed on the original Concession Certificate (by
>>>>>>>> affixing a stamp mentioning division, date of issue/initials) and
>>>>>>>> thereafter concessional tickets shall be issued on the authority of
>>>>>>>> the said card only and the Concession Certificate will not be
>>>>>>>> accepted
>>>>>>>> for issuing concessional tickets.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It mean when your ID card is ready, a seal will be affixed on your
>>>>>>>> original concession certificate, thereafter you will no longer be
>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>> to book ticket through that consession certificate but with the new
>>>>>>>> e
>>>>>>>> card only.
>>>>>>>> Then it also implys that till you make new e card, you can book
>>>>>>>> ticket
>>>>>>>> with yourr consession certificate. Am I write?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/9/15, Rohiet A. Patil <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>>>> As the link is not working, so I search the file on IR portal and
>>>>>>>>> uploaded
>>>>>>>>> on sendspace for all the intrested.
>>>>>>>>> Please download the 19th march cercular from the following link.
>>>>>>>>> https://www.sendspace.com/file/f5qhw6
>>>>>>>>> Please note, the PDF file is not readable. So you will have to
>>>>>>>>> perform
>>>>>>>>> OCR
>>>>>>>>> on it.
>>>>>>>>> Thanks and regards,
>>>>>>>>> Rohiet Patil
>>>>>>>>> Cell:+919850831774
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: mukesh jain
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 4:01 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>>>>>>> concerningthe disabled.
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Are railway concession certificates invalid
>>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>> introduction of E card?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> hello,
>>>>>>>>> indian railways has issued the circular on 19th, March, 2015
>>>>>>>>> instructing all the zones to issue the identity card to physically
>>>>>>>>> handicapped persons to facilitate them to book the concessional
>>>>>>>>> Eticket and also from the ticket counters authrised by them.
>>>>>>>>> initially, this project was launched on pilot basis in northern
>>>>>>>>> railways.  you can download this circular from here:
>>>>>>>>> www.indianrailways.gov.in/railwayboard/uploads/.../CC_18_2015.pdf
>>>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/9/15, Mohib Anwar Rafay <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, one of my friends is facing difficulty in booking the
>>>>>>>>>> railway
>>>>>>>>>> ticket with the help of his railway concession certificate. He
>>>>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>>>> this concession certificate last month as per the revised
>>>>>>>>>> performa.
>>>>>>>>>> But my friend has been advised to make a new ID card from
>>>>>>>>>> commercial
>>>>>>>>>> office of railway, and also told that these certificates are no
>>>>>>>>>> longer
>>>>>>>>>> valid.
>>>>>>>>>> Is there any such notification or circular from the railway? Does
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> necessary to make this new card in order  to avail concession on
>>>>>>>>>> booking the railway ticket? --
>>>>>>>>>> Mohib Anwar Rafay
>>>>>>>>>>
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