I guess that the restriction on chapatis is due to the fact that they are cooked by workers by hands. The best solution for this problem is to install a roti maker.
On 6/6/15, avinash shahi <[email protected]> wrote: > Its interesting to see response from an Ex NIVHian,who seems to me > defending the rules of the institute,smiles > > Yes you are right I mistakenly wrote 'of the' instead of 'for the' > Visually handicap'. However this should no way misguide researchers. > The subjectline of the mail gives enough clue to any serious > researcher that Its personal reflection and contents of the mail need > to be corroborated. Anyway, I don't wish to respond more on what one > should write with sincerety and responsibility. And do not even > consider it appropriate to pin-point your mail's bazaar logics and > sentences. However the National Institute for the 'visually handicap' > is marred with too-fold shortcomings which government needs to look in > to urgently. This particular thread itself provides enough questions > which speaks volumes about its current director's high-handedness. Its > fully funded by the government of India and we have all rights to > question its working. Why disability researchers are denied permission > to conduct interviews and surveys inside the campus is beyond one's > understanding. > > You for unknown reasons misread my mail. Let me reproduce: "The > National Institute of Visually handicap (NIVH) is the autonomous > institution under MSJE which deals with the concerns of blind people". > My emphases is not on MSJE but on NIVH. I am skipping your other so > called corrective justification cause I find these subjective views > debatable. Before I end this thread from my end, I once again maintain > that the NIVH way of functioning needs a complete overhall in tuned > with time. Tranees and B.ed and M.ed students should be provided > internet facility on campus. There should be less restriction on the > movements of blind students and too much policing of the students > should be stopped. Braille and audio magazines should be dispatched > timely which is one of the biggest problems in NIVH. Finally my aim is > not to criticize NIVH but since the institute is the premium body for > looking after the interests of blind people, it should abreast itself > with current technology and should serve the blind students in the > best manner. > On 6/6/15, Ritesh Tomer <[email protected]> wrote: >> Before commenting on the main issue (which is infrastructural >> limitations in the NIVH premises for the blind), I consider that it >> is important >> to rectify the errors that have been made in the first mail of this >> thread. >> vebelieSince this list has large readership, spreading across the >> globe, people who read it must be having disparate purposes/ >> interests of their own for making reference to it. I believe that one >> should write on such a big >> platform with great sense of responsibility and sincerity. Some of >> its readers could be researchers who would consider >> this list a resource for collecting data for their study, errors like >> this >> may >> mislead them bitterly. >> In clarifying my position I would say, that I am not speaking as an agent >> of >> NIVH here, I am simply trying to put forward my opinion on the basis of >> my >> experience of 10 years long with the institution. >> Guys, ‘NIVH’ is written as "National institute of the visually handicap" >> in >> that mail mistakenly. It is 'National institute for the visually >> handicapped' rightly. We need to strive hard to make that institution >> in tune with the mistakenly given title. >> Further, it was also stated >> in that mail that MSJE deals with the concerns of the blind people. >> The sentence gives the impression that it takes up the concerns of >> blind people exclusively, >> which it doesn’t. It rather deals with the concerns of people across >> the spectrum of disability. >> Now I would come to the main point. >> As far as the food and its quality in NIVH goes, again wrong information >> is being spreaded. One could eat rice in desirable quantity with four >> chapattis in lunch as well as in dinner. However, doctors suggest that >> eating less in lunch is good for health. Admittedly yes, quality food >> is a big concern there just like in many other >> institutions of the nation. >> As far as free roaming/meeting of both boys and girls in and outside >> the campus goes, it cannot be as smooth as it is here in Delhi. It is >> important to understand that NIVH premises does have many big and >> small organizations functioning within it. School up to 12th standard >> is one of the main part of the institution. And more than 300 boys and >> girls of teen age are studying there. Is it desirable to let them go >> anywhere any time? Certainly not. Also there is a training center that >> functions to educate/train adult blinds in NIVH premises. Many >> of the trainees are accidently blind and therefore are not habitual of >> moving with walking stick or other assistive devices. Some of them >> come from far remote. Freeing them to >> move anywhere may be problematic as they may collide with rushing >> vehicles on the road and may get into further problems. NIVH premises is >> surrounded by two of the busiest roads of Dehradun. They are Rajpur >> road and the >> newly constructed Nespila road. Commercial as well as private vehicles >> keep on rushing day and night there as both the roads connect Doon >> valley to Mansoori. These are some of the primary reason why people >> are not permited to move anywhere 24 hours. As per serfing internet >> goes, NIVH dehradun is having big and highly modernized computer labs >> for school students as well as trainees. Helen Keller Bhavan is an >> administrative building. And the vi-fi facility has been provided to >> the bodies associated with administration only. Sharing its password >> and id with students is not possible. Yes they may think of extending >> vi-fi facility over the campus. But again the same issue of sharing it >> with small kids would again come. >> >> I would urge you to pl visit school building as well. I did not find >> any reflection on school building as yet. >> Cheers. >> >> >> >> On 6/5/15, avinash shahi <[email protected]> wrote: >>> One could read this write up in full at >>> http://icareinfo.in/my-trip-to-nivh-some-reflections/ >>> On 6/4/15, ajit able <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> I was ex trainee of n i v.h. I saw things very closely ,inspite of beg >>>> setup.autonomy.services r very poor irrugular suppy of books & magzines >>>> massive irrugularity in recruitment poor fooding & lodgeing. Low quality >>>> education & skill training. I pained to see this that time when i talked >>>> with present trainees things r unchanged >>>> NGO 's r limted resoures , but they deliver maxmum in minimum resourses >>>> N >>>> I >>>> V H has maxmum resoure but deliver minimum with below quality. >>>> U may compare with other national intitutes with N I V H at any label of >>>> quality. >>>> >>>> <[email protected]> w >>>> >>>> rote: >>>>> >>>>> On 6/4/15, ajit able <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > For more info about cooruption of >>>>> > N.i.v h contact the hero who is fighting against n. I v .h. >>>>> > cooruption >>>>> > mr. Mantosh kumar mo no.09012578768 >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On 4 Jun 2015 16:14, "avinash shahi" <[email protected]> >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> The National Institute of Visually handicap (NIVH) is the autonomous >>>>> >> institution under MSJE which deals with the concerns of blind >>>>> >> people. >>>>> >> On a recent trip to Dehradoon, yesterday we visited this grand >>>>> >> institution. We reached in the morning around 6:30 am. Two cute and >>>>> >> untroubling dogs along with security guard welcomed us at the >>>>> >> campus’s >>>>> >> main gate. Weather was serene and silence was all around. We headed >>>>> >> ahead towards residential complex and heard 3 men gossiping >>>>> >> ,listening >>>>> >> FM and chewing tobacco nearby boys’ hostel. They were employees >>>>> >> perhaps. We asked them where M.Ed students reside? One said go ahead >>>>> >> and turn right after 50meters. We followed his directions and >>>>> >> reached >>>>> >> the desired venue. We went upstairs met with the students and our >>>>> >> queries were substantiated by the residents. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Hostel facts: irrespective of age and education, one can’t have more >>>>> >> than 4 chapaties in lunch. The quality of cooked food is less than >>>>> >> ordinary. And kupon cost for an outsider: Rs 50 per day. One can’t >>>>> >> go >>>>> >> outside after 8 pm. Girls and boys are not allowed to meet beyond >>>>> >> classes. 5:30 to 7 pm is the time one could go outside the premises. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Addministrative complex: as one approaches Main Helen Keller Bhawan, >>>>> >> one is informed by repeated audio announcement at the entrance, its >>>>> >> Helen Keller Bhawan. This huge building has several offices >>>>> >> including >>>>> >> Director’s one and account section, audio library and library for >>>>> >> print-abled people. One could find half-raised tactile pathways here >>>>> >> and there on the campus. Apart from Helen Keler Bhawan, no other >>>>> >> building has wi-fi however students are not provided user-ids and >>>>> >> password to access internet on the campus. I wonder why this apex >>>>> >> body >>>>> >> doesn’t provide internet access to B.Ed and M.Ed students at least. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -- >>>>> >> Avinash Shahi >>>>> >> Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing >>>>> >> accessibility >>>>> > of mobile phones / Tabs on: >>>>> >> >>>>> > >>>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Search for old postings at: >>>>> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>>> >> >>>>> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>> >> [email protected] >>>>> >> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other >>>>> >> changes, >>>>> > please visit the list home page at >>>>> >> >>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Disclaimer: >>>>> >> 1. 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