dear all, i have spoken to Ms. Anuradha mohit in this regard and she gave me justification and shortly will host a show with her and try to find out all the answers which u all have raised. with the regard to chapati she said most of the students does competition over chapaties and they eat more than 20 chapaties how ever i will do show with all the points shortly, before that i will do with Mr. Mantosh and try to have his view point as well.
On 6/7/15, avinash shahi <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't know the reason of why the Institute has put a limit on > chapatis, however was informed by the students that earlier they were > served just two rotis until 2 years ago! > On 6/7/15, Avichal Bhatnagar <[email protected]> wrote: >> I guess that the restriction on chapatis is due to the fact that they >> are cooked by workers by hands. >> The best solution for this problem is to install a roti maker. >> >> On 6/6/15, avinash shahi <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Its interesting to see response from an Ex NIVHian,who seems to me >>> defending the rules of the institute,smiles >>> >>> Yes you are right I mistakenly wrote 'of the' instead of 'for the' >>> Visually handicap'. However this should no way misguide researchers. >>> The subjectline of the mail gives enough clue to any serious >>> researcher that Its personal reflection and contents of the mail need >>> to be corroborated. Anyway, I don't wish to respond more on what one >>> should write with sincerety and responsibility. And do not even >>> consider it appropriate to pin-point your mail's bazaar logics and >>> sentences. However the National Institute for the 'visually handicap' >>> is marred with too-fold shortcomings which government needs to look in >>> to urgently. This particular thread itself provides enough questions >>> which speaks volumes about its current director's high-handedness. Its >>> fully funded by the government of India and we have all rights to >>> question its working. Why disability researchers are denied permission >>> to conduct interviews and surveys inside the campus is beyond one's >>> understanding. >>> >>> You for unknown reasons misread my mail. Let me reproduce: "The >>> National Institute of Visually handicap (NIVH) is the autonomous >>> institution under MSJE which deals with the concerns of blind people". >>> My emphases is not on MSJE but on NIVH. I am skipping your other so >>> called corrective justification cause I find these subjective views >>> debatable. Before I end this thread from my end, I once again maintain >>> that the NIVH way of functioning needs a complete overhall in tuned >>> with time. Tranees and B.ed and M.ed students should be provided >>> internet facility on campus. There should be less restriction on the >>> movements of blind students and too much policing of the students >>> should be stopped. Braille and audio magazines should be dispatched >>> timely which is one of the biggest problems in NIVH. Finally my aim is >>> not to criticize NIVH but since the institute is the premium body for >>> looking after the interests of blind people, it should abreast itself >>> with current technology and should serve the blind students in the >>> best manner. >>> On 6/6/15, Ritesh Tomer <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Before commenting on the main issue (which is infrastructural >>>> limitations in the NIVH premises for the blind), I consider that it >>>> is important >>>> to rectify the errors that have been made in the first mail of this >>>> thread. >>>> vebelieSince this list has large readership, spreading across the >>>> globe, people who read it must be having disparate purposes/ >>>> interests of their own for making reference to it. I believe that one >>>> should write on such a big >>>> platform with great sense of responsibility and sincerity. Some of >>>> its readers could be researchers who would consider >>>> this list a resource for collecting data for their study, errors like >>>> this >>>> may >>>> mislead them bitterly. >>>> In clarifying my position I would say, that I am not speaking as an >>>> agent >>>> of >>>> NIVH here, I am simply trying to put forward my opinion on the basis of >>>> my >>>> experience of 10 years long with the institution. >>>> Guys, ‘NIVH’ is written as "National institute of the visually >>>> handicap" >>>> in >>>> that mail mistakenly. It is 'National institute for the visually >>>> handicapped' rightly. We need to strive hard to make that institution >>>> in tune with the mistakenly given title. >>>> Further, it was also stated >>>> in that mail that MSJE deals with the concerns of the blind people. >>>> The sentence gives the impression that it takes up the concerns of >>>> blind people exclusively, >>>> which it doesn’t. It rather deals with the concerns of people across >>>> the spectrum of disability. >>>> Now I would come to the main point. >>>> As far as the food and its quality in NIVH goes, again wrong >>>> information >>>> is being spreaded. One could eat rice in desirable quantity with four >>>> chapattis in lunch as well as in dinner. However, doctors suggest that >>>> eating less in lunch is good for health. Admittedly yes, quality food >>>> is a big concern there just like in many other >>>> institutions of the nation. >>>> As far as free roaming/meeting of both boys and girls in and outside >>>> the campus goes, it cannot be as smooth as it is here in Delhi. It is >>>> important to understand that NIVH premises does have many big and >>>> small organizations functioning within it. School up to 12th standard >>>> is one of the main part of the institution. And more than 300 boys and >>>> girls of teen age are studying there. Is it desirable to let them go >>>> anywhere any time? Certainly not. Also there is a training center that >>>> functions to educate/train adult blinds in NIVH premises. Many >>>> of the trainees are accidently blind and therefore are not habitual of >>>> moving with walking stick or other assistive devices. Some of them >>>> come from far remote. Freeing them to >>>> move anywhere may be problematic as they may collide with rushing >>>> vehicles on the road and may get into further problems. NIVH premises >>>> is >>>> surrounded by two of the busiest roads of Dehradun. They are Rajpur >>>> road and the >>>> newly constructed Nespila road. Commercial as well as private vehicles >>>> keep on rushing day and night there as both the roads connect Doon >>>> valley to Mansoori. These are some of the primary reason why people >>>> are not permited to move anywhere 24 hours. As per serfing internet >>>> goes, NIVH dehradun is having big and highly modernized computer labs >>>> for school students as well as trainees. Helen Keller Bhavan is an >>>> administrative building. And the vi-fi facility has been provided to >>>> the bodies associated with administration only. Sharing its password >>>> and id with students is not possible. Yes they may think of extending >>>> vi-fi facility over the campus. But again the same issue of sharing it >>>> with small kids would again come. >>>> >>>> I would urge you to pl visit school building as well. I did not find >>>> any reflection on school building as yet. >>>> Cheers. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 6/5/15, avinash shahi <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> One could read this write up in full at >>>>> http://icareinfo.in/my-trip-to-nivh-some-reflections/ >>>>> On 6/4/15, ajit able <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> I was ex trainee of n i v.h. I saw things very closely ,inspite of beg >>>>>> setup.autonomy.services r very poor irrugular suppy of books & >>>>>> magzines >>>>>> massive irrugularity in recruitment poor fooding & lodgeing. Low >>>>>> quality >>>>>> education & skill training. I pained to see this that time when i >>>>>> talked >>>>>> with present trainees things r unchanged >>>>>> NGO 's r limted resoures , but they deliver maxmum in minimum >>>>>> resourses >>>>>> N >>>>>> I >>>>>> V H has maxmum resoure but deliver minimum with below quality. >>>>>> U may compare with other national intitutes with N I V H at any label >>>>>> of >>>>>> quality. >>>>>> >>>>>> <[email protected]> w >>>>>> >>>>>> rote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 6/4/15, ajit able <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> > For more info about cooruption of >>>>>>> > N.i.v h contact the hero who is fighting against n. I v .h. >>>>>>> > cooruption >>>>>>> > mr. Mantosh kumar mo no.09012578768 >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > On 4 Jun 2015 16:14, "avinash shahi" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> The National Institute of Visually handicap (NIVH) is the >>>>>>> >> autonomous >>>>>>> >> institution under MSJE which deals with the concerns of blind >>>>>>> >> people. >>>>>>> >> On a recent trip to Dehradoon, yesterday we visited this grand >>>>>>> >> institution. We reached in the morning around 6:30 am. Two cute >>>>>>> >> and >>>>>>> >> untroubling dogs along with security guard welcomed us at the >>>>>>> >> campus’s >>>>>>> >> main gate. Weather was serene and silence was all around. We >>>>>>> >> headed >>>>>>> >> ahead towards residential complex and heard 3 men gossiping >>>>>>> >> ,listening >>>>>>> >> FM and chewing tobacco nearby boys’ hostel. They were employees >>>>>>> >> perhaps. We asked them where M.Ed students reside? One said go >>>>>>> >> ahead >>>>>>> >> and turn right after 50meters. We followed his directions and >>>>>>> >> reached >>>>>>> >> the desired venue. We went upstairs met with the students and our >>>>>>> >> queries were substantiated by the residents. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Hostel facts: irrespective of age and education, one can’t have >>>>>>> >> more >>>>>>> >> than 4 chapaties in lunch. The quality of cooked food is less than >>>>>>> >> ordinary. And kupon cost for an outsider: Rs 50 per day. One can’t >>>>>>> >> go >>>>>>> >> outside after 8 pm. Girls and boys are not allowed to meet beyond >>>>>>> >> classes. 5:30 to 7 pm is the time one could go outside the >>>>>>> >> premises. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Addministrative complex: as one approaches Main Helen Keller >>>>>>> >> Bhawan, >>>>>>> >> one is informed by repeated audio announcement at the entrance, >>>>>>> >> its >>>>>>> >> Helen Keller Bhawan. This huge building has several offices >>>>>>> >> including >>>>>>> >> Director’s one and account section, audio library and library for >>>>>>> >> print-abled people. One could find half-raised tactile pathways >>>>>>> >> here >>>>>>> >> and there on the campus. Apart from Helen Keler Bhawan, no other >>>>>>> >> building has wi-fi however students are not provided user-ids and >>>>>>> >> password to access internet on the campus. I wonder why this apex >>>>>>> >> body >>>>>>> >> doesn’t provide internet access to B.Ed and M.Ed students at >>>>>>> >> least. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> -- >>>>>>> >> Avinash Shahi >>>>>>> >> Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing >>>>>>> >> accessibility >>>>>>> > of mobile phones / Tabs on: >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > >>>>>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Search for old postings at: >>>>>>> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>>>> >> [email protected] >>>>>>> >> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other >>>>>>> >> changes, >>>>>>> > please visit the list home page at >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Disclaimer: >>>>>>> >> 1. 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AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on >>>>>>> > the >>>>>> mails >>>>>>> > sent through this mailing list.. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> thank you sir, meny,meny thanks to you. but why? >>>>>>> i was trined in 1981to1983.at the same NIVH senter.thats why after i >>>>>>> read your mail i happy.once again thanks to you,information given >>>>>>> regarding NIVH. >>>>>>> with regards your's t gopalakrishna bangalore. >>>>>>> mob: >>>>>>> 9019105558, >>>>>>> e mail: >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing >>>>>>> accessibility >>>>>> of mobile phones / Tabs on: >>>>>>> >>>>>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Search for old postings at: >>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>>>> please visit the list home page at >>>>>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Disclaimer: >>>>>>> 1. 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AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >>>>>> mails >>>>>> sent through this mailing list.. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Avinash Shahi >>>>> Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >>>>> of >>>>> mobile phones / Tabs on: >>>>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Search for old postings at: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>> >>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>>> please >>>>> visit the list home page at >>>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Disclaimer: >>>>> 1. 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AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >>>>> mails >>>>> sent through this mailing list.. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Ritesh Singh Tomer >>>> Research Scholar {M.Phil.} >>>> Zakir Hussain Center for Educational Studies, >>>> JNU - New Delhi - 110067 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >>>> of >>>> mobile phones / Tabs on: >>>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> >>>> Search for old postings at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>> [email protected] >>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>> please >>>> visit the list home page at >>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> >>>> Disclaimer: >>>> 1. 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AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >>>> mails >>>> sent through this mailing list.. >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Avinash Shahi >>> Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU >>> >>> >>> >>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >>> of >>> mobile phones / Tabs on: >>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> Search for old postings at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> [email protected] >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please >>> visit the list home page at >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> Disclaimer: >>> 1. 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