I don't know the reason of why the Institute has put a limit on chapatis, however was informed by the students that earlier they were served just two rotis until 2 years ago! On 6/7/15, Avichal Bhatnagar <[email protected]> wrote: > I guess that the restriction on chapatis is due to the fact that they > are cooked by workers by hands. > The best solution for this problem is to install a roti maker. > > On 6/6/15, avinash shahi <[email protected]> wrote: >> Its interesting to see response from an Ex NIVHian,who seems to me >> defending the rules of the institute,smiles >> >> Yes you are right I mistakenly wrote 'of the' instead of 'for the' >> Visually handicap'. However this should no way misguide researchers. >> The subjectline of the mail gives enough clue to any serious >> researcher that Its personal reflection and contents of the mail need >> to be corroborated. Anyway, I don't wish to respond more on what one >> should write with sincerety and responsibility. And do not even >> consider it appropriate to pin-point your mail's bazaar logics and >> sentences. However the National Institute for the 'visually handicap' >> is marred with too-fold shortcomings which government needs to look in >> to urgently. This particular thread itself provides enough questions >> which speaks volumes about its current director's high-handedness. Its >> fully funded by the government of India and we have all rights to >> question its working. Why disability researchers are denied permission >> to conduct interviews and surveys inside the campus is beyond one's >> understanding. >> >> You for unknown reasons misread my mail. Let me reproduce: "The >> National Institute of Visually handicap (NIVH) is the autonomous >> institution under MSJE which deals with the concerns of blind people". >> My emphases is not on MSJE but on NIVH. I am skipping your other so >> called corrective justification cause I find these subjective views >> debatable. Before I end this thread from my end, I once again maintain >> that the NIVH way of functioning needs a complete overhall in tuned >> with time. Tranees and B.ed and M.ed students should be provided >> internet facility on campus. There should be less restriction on the >> movements of blind students and too much policing of the students >> should be stopped. Braille and audio magazines should be dispatched >> timely which is one of the biggest problems in NIVH. Finally my aim is >> not to criticize NIVH but since the institute is the premium body for >> looking after the interests of blind people, it should abreast itself >> with current technology and should serve the blind students in the >> best manner. >> On 6/6/15, Ritesh Tomer <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Before commenting on the main issue (which is infrastructural >>> limitations in the NIVH premises for the blind), I consider that it >>> is important >>> to rectify the errors that have been made in the first mail of this >>> thread. >>> vebelieSince this list has large readership, spreading across the >>> globe, people who read it must be having disparate purposes/ >>> interests of their own for making reference to it. I believe that one >>> should write on such a big >>> platform with great sense of responsibility and sincerity. Some of >>> its readers could be researchers who would consider >>> this list a resource for collecting data for their study, errors like >>> this >>> may >>> mislead them bitterly. >>> In clarifying my position I would say, that I am not speaking as an >>> agent >>> of >>> NIVH here, I am simply trying to put forward my opinion on the basis of >>> my >>> experience of 10 years long with the institution. >>> Guys, ‘NIVH’ is written as "National institute of the visually handicap" >>> in >>> that mail mistakenly. It is 'National institute for the visually >>> handicapped' rightly. We need to strive hard to make that institution >>> in tune with the mistakenly given title. >>> Further, it was also stated >>> in that mail that MSJE deals with the concerns of the blind people. >>> The sentence gives the impression that it takes up the concerns of >>> blind people exclusively, >>> which it doesn’t. It rather deals with the concerns of people across >>> the spectrum of disability. >>> Now I would come to the main point. >>> As far as the food and its quality in NIVH goes, again wrong information >>> is being spreaded. One could eat rice in desirable quantity with four >>> chapattis in lunch as well as in dinner. However, doctors suggest that >>> eating less in lunch is good for health. Admittedly yes, quality food >>> is a big concern there just like in many other >>> institutions of the nation. >>> As far as free roaming/meeting of both boys and girls in and outside >>> the campus goes, it cannot be as smooth as it is here in Delhi. It is >>> important to understand that NIVH premises does have many big and >>> small organizations functioning within it. School up to 12th standard >>> is one of the main part of the institution. And more than 300 boys and >>> girls of teen age are studying there. Is it desirable to let them go >>> anywhere any time? Certainly not. Also there is a training center that >>> functions to educate/train adult blinds in NIVH premises. Many >>> of the trainees are accidently blind and therefore are not habitual of >>> moving with walking stick or other assistive devices. Some of them >>> come from far remote. Freeing them to >>> move anywhere may be problematic as they may collide with rushing >>> vehicles on the road and may get into further problems. NIVH premises is >>> surrounded by two of the busiest roads of Dehradun. They are Rajpur >>> road and the >>> newly constructed Nespila road. Commercial as well as private vehicles >>> keep on rushing day and night there as both the roads connect Doon >>> valley to Mansoori. These are some of the primary reason why people >>> are not permited to move anywhere 24 hours. As per serfing internet >>> goes, NIVH dehradun is having big and highly modernized computer labs >>> for school students as well as trainees. Helen Keller Bhavan is an >>> administrative building. And the vi-fi facility has been provided to >>> the bodies associated with administration only. Sharing its password >>> and id with students is not possible. Yes they may think of extending >>> vi-fi facility over the campus. But again the same issue of sharing it >>> with small kids would again come. >>> >>> I would urge you to pl visit school building as well. I did not find >>> any reflection on school building as yet. >>> Cheers. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 6/5/15, avinash shahi <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> One could read this write up in full at >>>> http://icareinfo.in/my-trip-to-nivh-some-reflections/ >>>> On 6/4/15, ajit able <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> I was ex trainee of n i v.h. I saw things very closely ,inspite of beg >>>>> setup.autonomy.services r very poor irrugular suppy of books & magzines >>>>> massive irrugularity in recruitment poor fooding & lodgeing. Low >>>>> quality >>>>> education & skill training. I pained to see this that time when i >>>>> talked >>>>> with present trainees things r unchanged >>>>> NGO 's r limted resoures , but they deliver maxmum in minimum resourses >>>>> N >>>>> I >>>>> V H has maxmum resoure but deliver minimum with below quality. >>>>> U may compare with other national intitutes with N I V H at any label >>>>> of >>>>> quality. >>>>> >>>>> <[email protected]> w >>>>> >>>>> rote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On 6/4/15, ajit able <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> > For more info about cooruption of >>>>>> > N.i.v h contact the hero who is fighting against n. I v .h. >>>>>> > cooruption >>>>>> > mr. Mantosh kumar mo no.09012578768 >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On 4 Jun 2015 16:14, "avinash shahi" <[email protected]> >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> The National Institute of Visually handicap (NIVH) is the >>>>>> >> autonomous >>>>>> >> institution under MSJE which deals with the concerns of blind >>>>>> >> people. >>>>>> >> On a recent trip to Dehradoon, yesterday we visited this grand >>>>>> >> institution. We reached in the morning around 6:30 am. Two cute and >>>>>> >> untroubling dogs along with security guard welcomed us at the >>>>>> >> campus’s >>>>>> >> main gate. Weather was serene and silence was all around. We headed >>>>>> >> ahead towards residential complex and heard 3 men gossiping >>>>>> >> ,listening >>>>>> >> FM and chewing tobacco nearby boys’ hostel. They were employees >>>>>> >> perhaps. We asked them where M.Ed students reside? One said go >>>>>> >> ahead >>>>>> >> and turn right after 50meters. We followed his directions and >>>>>> >> reached >>>>>> >> the desired venue. We went upstairs met with the students and our >>>>>> >> queries were substantiated by the residents. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Hostel facts: irrespective of age and education, one can’t have >>>>>> >> more >>>>>> >> than 4 chapaties in lunch. The quality of cooked food is less than >>>>>> >> ordinary. And kupon cost for an outsider: Rs 50 per day. One can’t >>>>>> >> go >>>>>> >> outside after 8 pm. Girls and boys are not allowed to meet beyond >>>>>> >> classes. 5:30 to 7 pm is the time one could go outside the >>>>>> >> premises. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Addministrative complex: as one approaches Main Helen Keller >>>>>> >> Bhawan, >>>>>> >> one is informed by repeated audio announcement at the entrance, its >>>>>> >> Helen Keller Bhawan. This huge building has several offices >>>>>> >> including >>>>>> >> Director’s one and account section, audio library and library for >>>>>> >> print-abled people. One could find half-raised tactile pathways >>>>>> >> here >>>>>> >> and there on the campus. Apart from Helen Keler Bhawan, no other >>>>>> >> building has wi-fi however students are not provided user-ids and >>>>>> >> password to access internet on the campus. I wonder why this apex >>>>>> >> body >>>>>> >> doesn’t provide internet access to B.Ed and M.Ed students at least. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> -- >>>>>> >> Avinash Shahi >>>>>> >> Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing >>>>>> >> accessibility >>>>>> > of mobile phones / Tabs on: >>>>>> >> >>>>>> > >>>>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Search for old postings at: >>>>>> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>>> >> [email protected] >>>>>> >> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other >>>>>> >> changes, >>>>>> > please visit the list home page at >>>>>> >> >>>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Disclaimer: >>>>>> >> 1. 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AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >>>>> mails >>>>>> > sent through this mailing list.. >>>>>> > >>>>>> thank you sir, meny,meny thanks to you. but why? >>>>>> i was trined in 1981to1983.at the same NIVH senter.thats why after i >>>>>> read your mail i happy.once again thanks to you,information given >>>>>> regarding NIVH. >>>>>> with regards your's t gopalakrishna bangalore. >>>>>> mob: >>>>>> 9019105558, >>>>>> e mail: >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing >>>>>> accessibility >>>>> of mobile phones / Tabs on: >>>>>> >>>>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Search for old postings at: >>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>>> >>>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>>> please visit the list home page at >>>>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Disclaimer: >>>>>> 1. 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AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >>>>> mails >>>>> sent through this mailing list.. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Avinash Shahi >>>> Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >>>> of >>>> mobile phones / Tabs on: >>>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> >>>> Search for old postings at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>> [email protected] >>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>> please >>>> visit the list home page at >>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> >>>> Disclaimer: >>>> 1. 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AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >>>> mails >>>> sent through this mailing list.. >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ritesh Singh Tomer >>> Research Scholar {M.Phil.} >>> Zakir Hussain Center for Educational Studies, >>> JNU - New Delhi - 110067 >>> >>> >>> >>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >>> of >>> mobile phones / Tabs on: >>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> Search for old postings at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> [email protected] >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please >>> visit the list home page at >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> Disclaimer: >>> 1. 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-- Avinash Shahi Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
