MSJE guidelines is a joke on this earth. Nobody cares about it except IBPS, and that's too not fully. Refering MSJE guidelines is wasting our time, however I have mentioned just for the sake of argument.
On 6/14/15, Himanshu Sahu <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Mohib, > I would suggest you to refer the scribe guidelines issued by MSJE in > Feb 2013 for strengthening your case... I feel that you should have > presented your case on slight different line and that is why only > "blind" and why not even persons with low vision? > Though I am not legal expert, but believe that the fault was in their > guideline which provided scribe opportunity only to blind candidates > and not also to low vision candidates, it defies statutory guideline > of MSJE. And that is very much challengeable... > > Wish u all the best... > > > On 6/10/15, Mohib Anwar Rafay <[email protected]> wrote: >> I forgot to mention one thing in my previous mail, the rules of U.P >> public service commission say that "the facility of the scribe will be >> given to the blind candidates" >> >> and they have understood this rule as "blind mean who can not see at all". >> >> On 6/10/15, Mohib Anwar Rafay <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Yes, if their rules say that the scribe facility would be provided to >>> blind and low vision both, it is fine. >>> But the representative of the Public Service Commission interpreted >>> "blind" to those who don't have any sight, that's why they didn't >>> allow me to appear in the examination along with my scribe. >>> I will ask the government to amend this rule next time, but what about >>> the lost opportunity where I have been wrongly denyed? >>> And Kanchan ma'm, see the same public service commission has announced >>> the vacancies to be filled shortly for the post of Assistant >>> Prosecuting officer (government advocates), wherein 4 vacancies are >>> reserved for persons with low vision. If they apply the same reasoning >>> that only 100% visually impaired candidate can take the scribe, it >>> mean the candidate, in respect of whom 4 posts have been reserved, is >>> unable to even appear in the examination because he is not allowed to >>> avail the services of the scribe. And those posts are not reserved for >>> completely blind person either, what does it mean, the persons who got >>> fake blindness certificate and are able to appear in the examination >>> with out scribe will get an opportunity and will be selected. >>> >>> What a legal way of increasing corruption. >>> >>> >>> On 6/10/15, kanchan Pamnani <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Justice Chandrachud is currently the CJ of Allahabad High Court. In >>>> Mumbai >>>> matters concerning PWD would generally come before the Chief Justice Of >>>> Bombay so I presumed it may be the same in Allahabad. >>>> OK why cant you say that you are a candidate with low vision and these >>>> scribe rules should extend to low vision as well and therefore to you. I >>>> would think that this is an easier reasoning. >>>> >>>> Kanchan Pamnani >>>> Advocate & Solicitor >>>> 9, Suleman Chambers, >>>> Battery Street, Colaba, >>>> Mumbai - 400 039. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Mohib Anwar Rafay" <[email protected]> >>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >>>> concerningthe disabled." <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:20 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent,is low vision covered under the definition of >>>> blindness? >>>> >>>> >>>>> Kanchan Ma'm, you are quoting me wrong. I never claimed that I am a >>>>> blind person, my whole argument is that having 70% visual impairment I >>>>> should be covered under the definition of blindness given under Sec >>>>> 2(b) of PWD Act. Thus I am a blind person for the purposes mentioned >>>>> under the Persons with disabilities Act. I am aware that low vision is >>>>> a separet category defined under Sec 2(u) of the Act. >>>>> But I have to challenge the arbitrary action of the Public Service >>>>> Commission based on giving a narrow interpretation to the term "blind" >>>>> having 100% visual impairment only. While Sec 2(b) include both >>>>> categories, I.E. total absence of sight and visual acuity not acceding >>>>> 6/60 or 20/200. >>>>> So how can you say that a person having 70% visual impairment is not >>>>> covered under the definition of blindness? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> By the way how is the last para of your previous message i.e. "Chief >>>>> Justice Chandrachud has given many orders in favour of the Disabled >>>>> including accessible elections" is relevant to the case in hand? >>>>> >>>>> went overhead! >>>>> >>>>> On 6/10/15, kanchan Pamnani <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> I am sorry I dont think you are on the right track. >>>>>> Yes you are entitled to challenge the UP notification and get a >>>>>> scribe >>>>>> for >>>>>> the exam because you are a person with low vision but >>>>>> it is not good idea to ask for yourself to be included as a Blind >>>>>> person. >>>>>> >>>>>> Chief Justice Chandrachud has given many orders in favour of the >>>>>> Disabled >>>>>> including accessible elections.. >>>>>> Best wishes in your endeavour and please do keep me updated. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Kanchan Pamnani >>>>>> Advocate & Solicitor >>>>>> 9, Suleman Chambers, >>>>>> Battery Street, Colaba, >>>>>> Mumbai - 400 039. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Mohib Anwar Rafay" <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >>>>>> concerningthe disabled." <[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 1:11 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent,is low vision covered under the definition of >>>>>> blindness? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, my case is totally based upon the definition of blindness. I was >>>>>>> not allowed to appear in Uttar Pradesh public service Commission >>>>>>> examination on the same ground, that facility of the scribe is >>>>>>> permitted only to blind candidates. And according to them a person is >>>>>>> blind if he is having 100% visual impairment. >>>>>>> So the question is that whether I am covered under the definition of >>>>>>> blindness having 70% visual impairment? so that I can take the >>>>>>> service >>>>>>> of the scribe. >>>>>>> Allahabad high court didn't grant me instant relief of reconducting >>>>>>> my >>>>>>> examination along with the facility of the scribe. >>>>>>> The result of that preliminary examination has been declared and its >>>>>>> mains exam is scheduled to be conducted by the end of June and >>>>>>> Allahabad High court has listed the matter in July. That's why I had >>>>>>> to rush to supreme court for instant relief. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 6/10/15, kanchan Pamnani <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>> You will have to read the definition of Low Vision too. Your case >>>>>>>> seems >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> be on a slippery ground. >>>>>>>> However no Authority can deny you the use of a scribe etc. >>>>>>>> So if you can avoid getting into the nitty gritty of blindness and >>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>> fight on the need for a scribe, it would be better. I have not read >>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> mails on this subject as yet so please accept my suggestion as based >>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>> limited facts. >>>>>>>> Kanchan Pamnani >>>>>>>> Advocate & Solicitor >>>>>>>> 9, Suleman Chambers, >>>>>>>> Battery Street, Colaba, >>>>>>>> Mumbai - 400 039. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Mohib Anwar Rafay" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> To: "accessindia" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 11:21 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: [AI] Urgent,is low vision covered under the definition of >>>>>>>> blindness? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hey experts, I would be thankful if somebody could explain to me >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> section 2(b) of Persons with disabilities Act 1995. >>>>>>>>> For ready reference, I am reproducing the section as follows: >>>>>>>>> Sec2(b) define blindness, it provides “(b) "blindness" refers to a >>>>>>>>> condition where a person suffers from any of the following >>>>>>>>> conditions, >>>>>>>>> namely:--- >>>>>>>>> (I) total absence of sight. >>>>>>>>> (ii) visual acuity not exceeding 6/60 or 20/200 (snellen) in the >>>>>>>>> better eye with correcting lenses; or >>>>>>>>> (iii) limitation of the filed of vision subtending an angle of 20 >>>>>>>>> degree or worse.” >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please explain to me the second and third point, so that I could >>>>>>>>> argue >>>>>>>>> that a person who has 10% remaining sight, is covered by the >>>>>>>>> definition of blindness. >>>>>>>>> The case is that who is a blind person. One point is clear that who >>>>>>>>> has no sight is a blind person, but what is second and third point >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Mohib Anwar Rafay >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Phone: +919 555 555 765 / +9192 7879 0000 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing >>>>>>>>> accessibility >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> mobile phones / Tabs on: >>>>>>>>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Search for old postings at: >>>>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other >>>>>>>>> changes, >>>>>>>>> please visit the list home page at >>>>>>>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Disclaimer: >>>>>>>>> 1. 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AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >>>> mails >>>> sent through this mailing list.. >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mohib Anwar Rafay >>> >>> Phone: +919 555 555 765 >>> >> >> >> -- >> Mohib Anwar Rafay >> >> Phone: +919 555 555 765 >> >> >> >> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of >> mobile phones / Tabs on: >> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> [email protected] >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please >> visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> Disclaimer: >> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >> the >> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; >> >> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails >> sent through this mailing list.. >> > > > -- > Thanks and regards > Himanshu Sahu > Reach: 09051055000 > Skype: himanshu.cute4u > > > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > [email protected] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. 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