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Topics of the day:
1. Off topic Gerald E. Boyd stories (5)
2. Do any web-to-mail servers allow exceptions to banned words?
3. About HTML
4. Answers by moderator vs. others <was Re: Only getting 143 of 244 parts...>
5. FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics
6. free pop3 mail account (4)
7. <No subject given> (2)
8. Re; free pop3 mail account
9. K. Somov resources
10. About MAILING-LISTS documentation (2)
11. Need help with MS Photo Editor- print problem
12. replacement for [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?....
13. complete search URLs for dogpile and others....? (2)
14. a question!
15. Content versus point-and-click
16. Do any web-to-mail servers allow exceptions to banned
17. Shochwave site (was blank)
18. About cracking Metacrawter search engine
19. Is very easy with mailserver, but how...?
20. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 01:33:57 +0300
From: Gabriel Teodorescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Off topic Gerald E. Boyd stories
----- Original Message -----
From: Gerald E. Boyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> How many people on this list worked with 80-column punched cards? Who
> made a 90-column punched card? What is "snow white and the seven dwarfs"
> as related to early mainframe computers? What is DASD? What is the term
> "Winchester" and how does it relate to DASD? Who were the "BUNCH"? Who
> made the first supercomputer?
Mr. Boyd, you're making it sound worse than it is. How many people back
there knew the meaning of these terms? Not many and they were all of them
related in some way or another to computers.
If it means anything to you, I'm 22 years old and I know what a Winchester
disk is.
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 01:30:00 +0300
From: Dan Platon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Off topic Gerald E. Boyd stories
Hi,
My precedent reply went in the wind so I came back.
>
> I'm getting more and more pessimistic, unfortantely for me. This list used
> to have between 3000-3100 members but has been falling steadily in the
> last year. We are now done to about 2500+. Other lists that concentrated
> on the 'net have also seen this loss. However, the Windows lists grow and
> grow.
>
> Win95-l list has 2300 subscribers
> Win98-l has has 1100 subscribers
>
That great how many Win9x user are and how many user with only e-mail are?
> [snip]
> This list won't have many postings if I eliminate everything not E-mail
> related. Here is a summary of last weeks postings that I let through...
>
> <No subject>
> ????Shuting Down Windows 98???? (2 messages)
After all someone may learn very fast how to use WWW by e-mail and why stay
for more then 1 1/2 year on this list (that me ;-)?
It will be boring just e-mail, just e-mail
According to the Internet statistics there are 2 kind of users: below 30 years
and over 30 years. The first are the surfers and the second are the content
hunting. So be it.
I think is plenty world for mainframe and PC users.
About programming, not long ago every man could fix his car, now is not
the same. Even so there always be some ... but better read this:
98lite
Windows98(tm)�without Internet�Explorer(tm)by Shane Brooks
...because they said it couldn't be done....
------------------------------------------------------------------------
About Shane Brooks
I am an Australian biologist, currently employed as a Post-Doctoral
Research Associate at the University of Maryland. My research interests
are in the restoration of degraded river systems. Computers are only a
hobby for me. I am not much of a programmer and I am the first to admit
that my approach is a little rough around the edges.
Have a nice day,
Dan
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:35:07 EDT
From: William C Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Do any web-to-mail servers allow exceptions to banned words?
Hello all,
Does anyone know if any of the web-to-mail
servers, allow any exceptions to their banned 'word'
list? If I send a request to an admin. of say one
of the www4mail servers or a gopher explaining that
the site/image is not porn, would the forward the
doc.? Don't go and ask them, I will if nobody knows
and says so.
Case in point: My cousin set up a sight for
his son, so family members can see pictures of the
baby. One of the pictures is called Nakedbaby.jpg
and is a standard baby on the rug shot (I think).
Because the file name has the word NAKED in it the
server bounces the request.
Hypothetical: If I wanted to acess info
about West Essex a server might bounce it because it
conatains the word SEX. Also pages that refer to
"naked-eye" astronomy would get banned. I did get a
bounce on one of those before.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:58:40 +0300
From: Valerian Dinca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: About HTML
Hi,
Does anybody know where I can find Beginner's Guide in HTML or something
else equivalent ?
I am interested from where a can download a good (free) soft.
TIA
Valerian
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:50:22 EDT
From: William C Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Answers by moderator vs. others <was Re: Only getting 143 of 244
parts...>
The Esteemed "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake:
>On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:42:51 PDTJerel D. Arbaugh wrote:
>>Three reasons for the moderator to answer:
>>1: He sees it first, in that he must approve it to be posted to the
list.
>>2: If he answers, it will likely come before others see it, and the
>>others will likely see his answer and not comment further.
>...
>Not a bad list...
>
>I'm also starting to pass on all the basic questions and allow the other
>users to answer.
Us, digest readers have to wait for the digest to be released and then
jump inorder to get a chance to get first crack at an answer. I have
noticed the allowance of a few questions to slip through. It is great
to be able to share the knowledge that I have gleaned from the list and
also learned from the school of hard knocks.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 06:01:27 +0100
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:12:25 -0500
From: Lloyd Colston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: free pop3 mail account
webmail.netscape.net
is partnered with usa.net and it is free.
You might also see if the free service at http://www.crosswalk.com
meets your needs.
> I was wondering where could I find a list with providers of this type of
> service. I know only of usa.net which is no longer free.
>
> I believe Mr. Boyd posted a list some time ago. Could you, please, repost
> it if it isn't much trouble?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> --
> Gabriel Teodorescu
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> --
>
Lloyd Colston Excellence is not an accident
Pryor, OK USA social worker, writer, editor
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Offering low cost communication WORLDWIDE
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 07:52:29 +0200
From: Jack Raats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: free pop3 mail account
Gabriel Teodorescu wrote in a message to All:
GT> I was wondering where could I find a list with providers of this
GT> type of service. I know only of usa.net which is no longer free.
GT> I believe Mr. Boyd posted a list some time ago. Could you, please,
GT> repost it if it isn't much trouble?
Use www.nettaxi.com!
With greetings ... Jack Raats
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:47:31 -0400
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ismael_Mart=EDnez_C=E1rdenas?=
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: <No subject given>
Hi
When I request a web page to a www4mail server, a massage returns with =
a html attachment which has a 'Get selected Document(s)' in it. I select =
some documents and press this botton. It creates a blank addressed =
massege, and...? =20
Ismael
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:42:28 +0500
From: Rajan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re; free pop3 mail account
Gabriel Teodorescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in ACCMAIL Digest - 19
Apr 1999 to 20 Apr 1999 (#1999-111):-
>Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:49:48 +0300
>From: Gabriel Teodorescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: free pop3 mail account
>
>I was wondering where could I find a list with providers of this type of
>service. I know only of usa.net which is no longer free.
>
>I believe Mr. Boyd posted a list some time ago. Could you, please, repost it
>if it isn't much trouble?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>--
>Gabriel Teodorescu
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Hi!
Try http://www.kusner.com/nojunk/fstuff/pop.asp
NetTaxi and HotPOP I have tried and they seem to be working OK.
Rajan
21-4-99
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:02:44 +0300
From: Alexandre Sotov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: K. Somov resources
Hi, ACCMAILers:
Off topic... Anyway... perhaps someone have an
idea of _any_ net resources on Konstantin
(Constantin) Somov, that is a painter of the
beginning of the 20th century. Pls, people,
if anyone have ever seen anything connected
with him, mail me privately at
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Thnx in advance!
a.s.
---
Alexandre Sotov ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
CAEC/TEE SEAN
Wed, 21 Apr 99 18:01 +0300 MSK
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:33:31 +1200
From: Andrew Voronoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: About MAILING-LISTS documentation
Maybe someone knows what's wrong with documentation "ACCMAIL" v.8 ?
I sent command
"GET NEW-LIST WOUTERS"
to server
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
This command I found in the part "MAILING LISTS" of ACCMAIL doc.
I got answer:
This server does not have any file by the name "NEW-LIST WOUTERS".
What's wrong with docs or with me? Thanks for att.
Andrew
Kamchatka rgn
Russia
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 02:50:59 -0600
From: Tim May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need help with MS Photo Editor- print problem
On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Rajan wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I have been using MS Photo Editor (Office 97) for viewing and printing
> pictures. I had no problems printing from this software when I had just
> 16MB RAM. Then I added memory and now have 32 MB RAM. The funny thing is
> that now whenever I try to print from Photo Editor I get the message
> "Insufficient memory to complete the operation" ! Any idea why this is
> happening? Would be grateful for any help. (Incidentally the same pictures
> print out quite easily from other picture viewers that I have).
>
> Rajan
> 10-4-99
>
My guess would be that you loaded those pictures into RAM
inadvertantly and windows is SO stupid it doesnt know how to
unload them. SO if you just turn off your computer and restart
it you will be fine.
Paint Shop Pro workes great for this also as does Graphic Workshop
GOOD LUCK
Tim May
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:11:00 +0300
From: Viorell Lupu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: replacement for [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?....
Is there any other server that can send a big file (with customizable splitsize)
from an http://.. URL and/or which had the possibility to compress files?
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:11:04 +0300
From: Viorell Lupu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: complete search URLs for dogpile and others....?
How to find the complete URL fo do an email search with the following search
engines:
www.dogpile.com search.shareware.com
search.inference.com search.dejanews.com
www.goto.com www.stpt.com
www.four11.com search.opentext.com
www.search.com
ftp.search.ntnu.no and possilbly others?
I realize that doing an actual on-line (not my case) search from a browser
would probably answer this question but is there a syntax descritpion the
way there is for
more 'traditional' search engines (like
ttp://altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/query
?pg=q&what=web&fmt=.&q=dream+game)?\\\
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:37:40 +0800
From: James Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: free pop3 mail account
Dear Gabriel Teodorescu:
The list below is what you want:(first you should sign up an account there, then
see the directions or FAQs)
http://www.softhome.net
http://www.axis.org
http://www.ciudadfutura.es (section: Internet Gratis)
http://www.megapolis.net/central/7/index.htm
http://www.topmail.com
http://www.emails.com
http://www.nettaxi.com
http://www.altern.org
James Wu,
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 02:27:18 +330
From: "alireza.ghasemi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: a question!
hello all,
I have a problem, I will be very happy if you can solve it.
question:
can I send a fax by pmail software?
I am waiting for your reply.
thank you for your time.
with best regards
Alireza Ghasemi
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:06:38 EDT
From: Richard Hershey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: <No subject given>
I have tried to get this web page "http://www.magellangps.com/ by email
but it calls for javscript plus Shockwave from
"http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/jars/english/silentflash32.jar".
How do I get around this to retrieve
other pages.
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:54:33 +0200
From: Jan Wagemakers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Content versus point-and-click
Hello,
On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Dan Platon wrote:
> As I have read some time ago there are 2 kind of Internet users:
> 1. < 30 years;
> 2. > 30 years.
I am 30 years old. So, it seems that there are 3 kind of Internet users ;-)))
Regards - Jan Wagemakers -
Internet : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bewoner.dma.be/JanW (Linux & Assembler)
Fidonet : 2:292/854.19
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:34:07 EDT
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: free pop3 mail account
On Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:42:28 +0500 Rajan wrote:
>Try http://www.kusner.com/nojunk/fstuff/pop.asp
>
>NetTaxi and HotPOP I have tried and they seem to be working OK.
The URL you gave redirects you to net@address (usa.net) which is no
longer totally "free" (even though the signup page still says so.).
Members of this ist posted notices to the effect that some small monthly
"fee" was to be charged for continued service.
--
Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:45:03 EDT
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Do any web-to-mail servers allow exceptions to banned
On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:35:07 EDT William C Andrews wrote:
> Does anyone know if any of the web-to-mail
>servers, allow any exceptions to their banned 'word'
>list? If I send a request to an admin. of say one
>of the www4mail servers or a gopher explaining that
>the site/image is not porn, would the forward the
>doc.? Don't go and ask them, I will if nobody knows
>and says so.
[snip]
Yes and no. Many of the E-mail only server sysadmins have contacted me
privately explaining the problems they have faced with users trying to
obtain "porn".
To name a few; the bellanet www4mail server, the emailfetch server, the
UK agora server, [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc. have all had problems with extreme
use mainly caused by trying to obtain "porn".
In fact, the new help file at [EMAIL PROTECTED] mentions this act specifically
as the reason for their changes.
All I can say is that you could ask the sysadmin explicity about some
site that may look like "porn" but isn't. However, I don't blame any of
them for restricting access either based on userids or site names. If
and when I get my own site for E-mail only access, I will do the same.
--
Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:10:05 EDT
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Off topic Gerald E. Boyd stories
On Wed, 21 Apr 1999 01:33:57 +0300 Gabriel Teodorescu wrote:
>Mr. Boyd, you're making it sound worse than it is. How many people back
>there knew the meaning of these terms? Not many and they were all of them
>related in some way or another to computers.
All I can say is from my viewpoint what I saw and participated in. When
I first learned computing (1964) I learned how to write code in 32-bit
strings of 0s and 1s -- machine language. Next I graduated to assembler,
Gotran (forerunner of Fortran), then Fortran, Cobol, CPS, Basic, PL/I,
IMS, CICS, DB/2, OS everything, Focus, C, and now C++. Most all of this
was on IBM mainframes, some GE time-sharing systems, an RCA Spectra 370,
and some CDC machines.
I swear that it appeared to me that everyone with whom I worked and
corresponded knew just about everything and kept up with changes. One of
the most memorable moments is June 1980 when I punched my last punched
card and got my own 3270 terminal -- heaven.
I know the one thing that still surprises me today is that when PCs
first started to arrive only 7 of us at work bought one. This was from a
staff of 258 system programmers, programmer-analysts, system analysts,
and other information specialists and managers. They all thought the 7
of US were crazy to be playing around with "toy" computers. I started
with an Altair kit, then an Imsai, then a TRS-80, then an IBM PC. This
lead to an interest in Basic, Assembler, Pascal, C, C++,
word-processing, databases and spreasheets.
>If it means anything to you, I'm 22 years old and I know what a Winchester
>disk is.
You must be getting a better education in Romania -- thank heavens.
--
Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:18:48 EDT
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: complete search URLs for dogpile and others....?
On Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:11:04 +0300 Viorell Lupu wrote:
>How to find the complete URL fo do an email search with the following search
>engines:
>
>www.dogpile.com search.shareware.com
>search.inference.com search.dejanews.com
>www.goto.com www.stpt.com
>www.four11.com search.opentext.com
>www.search.com
>
>ftp.search.ntnu.no and possilbly others?
Most if not all of these I have already "cracked" and provide a series
of wsxxx.faq files at my ftp site. About half of the ones I originally
worked with have been updated in Jan 99 whereas the others have not.
However, the wscrack.faq has also been updated. This document shows how
I went about developing the search strings for the various search
engines.
The main reason that I don't spend much time with these anymore is
because of the development of Getweb then the www4mail servers. These
two types of servers have just about eliminated the need for an agora
type search string.
However, if you want the files you can get them all in one zip file.
You can get the file by anonymous FTP at:
ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/gb/gboyd/wssearch.zip
Or by Agora, Getweb, or W3mail
send ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/gb/gboyd/wsearch.zip
--
Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:54:38 -0400
From: Sorin Calinescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Off topic Gerald E. Boyd stories
>How many people on this list worked with 80-column punched cards?
...[snip]
Aye, aye, captain! Here I am.
Almost forgotten those times were not quite so long ago
The most exciting moments one could ever experience
- after dropping a full large box on the floor :)
Please do have patience with the new point&click kids on the block,
it is not entirely their fault, afterall.
best regards (remembering those glorious old days)
Sorin Calinescu
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:27:27 EDT
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: About MAILING-LISTS documentation
On Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:33:31 +1200 Andrew Voronoy wrote:
>Maybe someone knows what's wrong with documentation "ACCMAIL" v.8 ?
>
>I sent command
> "GET NEW-LIST WOUTERS"
>to server
> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
>This command I found in the part "MAILING LISTS" of ACCMAIL doc.
>
>I got answer:
> This server does not have any file by the name "NEW-LIST WOUTERS".
>
>What's wrong with docs or with me? Thanks for att.
Nothing wrong with you. This is a case of disappearing old files and new
names for old familiar listserv addresses.
The olf Arno Wouters files was around for ages and ages but has finally
been retired. The last update to the file was 5 Feb 94 but the ideas
contained in it were valid. However, due to the fact that so many of the
addresses had changed I guess the administrators decided to abandon this
old favorite file.
In addition, new list has moved from it's original site in North Dakota
to the Scout Project site at cs.wsic.edu. In addition, the listserv
address has changed.
I'm going to have to rewrite this section of the ACCMAIL FAQ to show
that this site is the home of NEW-LIST announcements.
To subscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the
command:
SUBSCRIBE NEW-LIST [your name]
--
Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:52:40 EDT
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Shochwave site (was blank)
On Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:06:38 EDTRichard Hershey wrote:
>I have tried to get this web page "http://www.magellangps.com/ by email
>but it calls for javscript plus Shockwave from
>"http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/jars/english/silentflash32.jar".
>How do I get around this to retrieve
>other pages.
Good question. Netscape OS/2 won't access and neither will Lynx. The
page is supposed to allow the user to select a non-shocked page but I
receive a message "badly formed address".
I think this is another in the long line of useless web pages designed
by clueless individuals. They assume everybody is running some Windows
version when accessing the web page.
You might address a note to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and see what
happens.
--
Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:32:01 EDT
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Off topic Gerald E. Boyd stories
On Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:54:38 -0400 Sorin Calinescu wrote:
>Please do have patience with the new point&click kids on the block,
>it is not entirely their fault, afterall.
I have the same types of problems when I teach my C++ class. I get
questions like "Are we going to use the Internet?", "Do we use a mouse
to program?" "How come we have to type all these lines of code?", "I
thought C++ programming was like Visual Basic", "How come you make us
type all this code, can't we copy it from somewhere?" "Why do I have to
use these long variable names?", "Why do you make us comment the code?",
"Why does the code have to look pretty?"
I respond that in any major shop, 80% of the programming is maintenance,
not new development but alas nobody gets it.
The problem with PCs is that are every where so people think they are
like a VCR, TV, CD-Player, or a toaster. You just plug it in, turn it on
and you are ready to go. Unfortunately, it is extremely difficult to get
across the point that a PC is a very complicated and difficult piece of
electronic equipment and they are NOT easy to use. I don't think anybody
has ever installed a piece of software that was flawless in installation
or later use. Ditto for hardware, especially when you add a new device.
Examples:
#include <iostream.h>
int main()
{
int a;
cout << "Enter a: ";
cin >> a;
cout << "D is: " << a * 2 << endl;
cout << "C is: " << 3.14159 * a * 2 << endl;
cout << "A is: " << 3.14159 * a * a << endl;
return 0;
}
Is this program intuitively obvious? Or the next one?
// Read radius of circle and print diameter, circumference, and
// area. Use integer for pi = 3.14159 in chapter 1.
#include <iostream.h>
int main()
{
int radius, pi; // declarations for radius and pi as integers
pi = 3.14159; // set value of pi, only know integers in Chp 1
cout << "Enter radius of circle as an integer: ";
cin >> radius;
cout << " Diameter is: " << radius * 2 << endl;
cout << "Circumference is: " << pi * radius * 2 << endl;
cout << " Area is: " << pi * radius * radius << endl;
return 0; // indicate that program ended successfully
}
This program confuses students no end. They can't seem to understand
that if we are using integers the value of pi really is 3. However, with
the comments, pretty code layout, and good variable names, the code
becomes understandable to anybody, not just programmers.
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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:58:59 EDT
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: About cracking Metacrawter search engine
On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:17:10 -0000 Dogberry wrote:
>An advanced Metacrawler search string as described in wsmeta.faq is
>
>http://www.metacrawler.com/crawler\
>?general=frog+dissection&method=0&target=®ion=0&rpp=20\
>&timeout=10&hpe=10&format=2
>
>Does anybody know how to ask for the next matches?
>
>Your comments will be appreciated,
Well the wsmeta.faq is now somewhat out of date since go2net has redone
the site.
MetaCrawler is a World Wide Web search service developed in 1994 at the
University of Washington by Erik Selberg, Oren Etzioni and Greg
Lauckhart. It
is now operated by Go2Net, Inc., an Internet content and technology
company based in Seattle, Washington. In February 1997, Go2Net acquired
the MetaCrawler from its original developers and is focused on
continuously improving the service.
The string looks something like this now:
send http://search.go2net.com/crawler?general=[search phrase]\
&method=0&target=®ion=0&rpp=20&timeout=5&hpe=10
The second page of results is like:
send http://search2.go2net.com/crawler?general=[search phrase]\
&method=0&sid=26512421search2_21_29&sno=42510&start=20\
&domainLimit=0&rpp=20&timeout=5&hpe=10&format=regular
The exact sid number(sid), start number(sno) etc. come from the first
set of results. start=20 shows to start at the second page of results
(usually, 1-20 is shown on the first page).
I haven't actually worked with the new strings...
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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:52:01 EDT
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is very easy with mailserver, but how...?
On Tue, 4 Nov 1997 08:59:00 -0600 Ariel O. Famadas Garcia wrote:
>I'm trying to get a part of a file using [EMAIL PROTECTED], but the
>results are not so good than i want.
>Can anyone tell me what i'm doing wrong ?
>
>The message i sent:
>
>chdir ftp.online.be/raid/freebsd/incoming/
>mailquota 3M
>encoder uuencode
>partsize 30k
>parts 1
>send frontpage98.arj
>
>The message i've recieve:
>
>> chdir ftp.online.be/raid/freebsd/incoming/
>* Directory validity sense reported error on
>`/ftp.online.be/raid/freebsd/incoming'
[snip]
ftp.online.be is not mirrored at funet.fi, hence no directory.
If you had sent a find request to [EMAIL PROTECTED] you would have
recieved
this:
> find frontpage98.arj
* Matching for regexpr: `frontpage98.arj'
* Found 0 matches.
If the file existed and was at a mirror site, then funet.fi would tell
you where it was located and you would place that address in the chdir
request. In almost all cases, the chdir command will look something
like:
chdir pub/mirrors/[mirrored ftp site name]/[mirrored path to
file]/[mirrored filename]
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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:18:42 EDT
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Accmailers,
Bad news. [EMAIL PROTECTED] has had another policy change and all
requests originating from dot-com and dot-net sites are denied.
So I guess I'll have to add this to the DEFUNCT list of servers.
Jeez, even I am now excluded when I was personally included. I'm
supposed to contact another person to find out what authority changes
can be made. Gads, this will be the 5th person I've dealt with at this
site in just 3 years.
The poor E-mail only user get the shafts again. I'm really get tired of
all this catering to web users. What about the rest of the world?
This is what I received back on 04Nov1998 from Robin B Parnes, the
Information Officer at SatelLife:
=============
Dear Gerry Boyd,
Thank you for your interest in SatelLife and for your reply! The
information you provided is exactly what I needed. I will update your
profile in the database in the near future. (I'll put in
programmer/teacher for profession, and no, I will not delete your
profile.)
I've never met Rolf, but I have heard good things about him. Thanks for
sharing that info. with me. If you have any questions, please do not
hesitate to let me know.
Regards,
Robin
==========================
Now I get this:
"For policy questions, I'd recommend talking to Leela McCullough, who
can
be reached at <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. I don't personally have the
authority to change SatelLife policy, so talking to Leela is your best
recourse."
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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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