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Topics of the day:
1. FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics
2. replacement for [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?....
3. HTML lessons for beginners (was: About HTML)
4. Listserv Software (2)
5. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
6. Get Selected Documents - Blank Message (was <No subject given >)
7. Newbie needs help (2)
8. An opinion
9. Do any web-to-mail servers allow exceptions to banned words?
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Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 06:01:45 +0100
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Subject: FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics
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Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 01:37:18 EDT
From: William C Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: replacement for [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?....
>Is there any other server that can send a big file (with customizable
>splitsize)
>from an http://.. URL and/or which had the possibility to compress
files?
Yes, send mail to one of the WWW4MAIL servers for help
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: (leave blank)
Body: help
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Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 14:07:01 +0200
From: Frits Westra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HTML lessons for beginners (was: About HTML)
Linda Coffin is giving lessons to HTML newbies on her mailing list.
To subscribe send a blank e-mail to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Back lessons can be viewed at:
http://www.poncacity.net/lwdrmc/html
Regards,
Frits Westra -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:58:40 +0300
>From: Valerian Dinca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: About HTML
>
>Hi,
>
>Does anybody know where I can find Beginner's Guide in HTML or
>something else equivalent ? I am interested from where a can download
>a good (free) soft.
>TIA Valerian
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Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:04:16 -0400
From: Godofredo Garay Alvarez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Listserv Software
Hola,
Where can I get listserv software??
TIA,
--Godofredo
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:27:18 -0400
From: Mason Loring Bliss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, Apr 21, 1999 at 02:18:42PM -0400, Gerald E. Boyd wrote:
> Bad news. [EMAIL PROTECTED] has had another policy change and all
> requests originating from dot-com and dot-net sites are denied.
This isn't, of course, necessarily a permanent condition. It's my opinion
that this policy could be changed given a modicum of effective argument.
However, my understanding is that it's a decision for the SatelLife board
to make.
Please note that this situation isn't a blanket condition. Many domains can
use the getweb server currently, and if you're a healthcare professional,
you can request the use of the service regardless of your domain under the
current policy.
> Jeez, even I am now excluded when I was personally included.
FWIW, I'm going to ask about this. The letter you forwarded to me would
indicate that you should have access. I just need to confirm this with
those who decide these things locally.
> The poor E-mail only user get the shafts again. I'm really get tired of
> all this catering to web users. What about the rest of the world?
The rest of the world can use SatelLife/Healthnet services if they're
are involved with healthcare, in general. I'm sure that Leela, mentioned
below, can explain our rationalle and policy for anyone who is curious
and who thinks they may be able to benefit from getweb services.
> Now I get this:
> "For policy questions, I'd recommend talking to Leela McCullough, who
> can be reached at <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. I don't personally have the
> authority to change SatelLife policy, so talking to Leela is your best
> recourse."
This (which I wrote earlier today) applies to anyone who wants access,
incidentally. Write, tell us who you are and what you do, and tell us
that you desire access, assuming, again, that you're a healthcare
professional.
--
Mason Loring Bliss -- Associate Consultant, Collective Technologies
SatelLife: echo {mail\ mason@usa,lynx\ http://www}.healthnet.org\;
Collective: echo {mail\ mason@,lynx\ http://www.}colltech.com\;
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Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:46:53 -0600
From: "Walde, Jonathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Get Selected Documents - Blank Message (was <No subject given >)
The default 'Get selected Document(s)' attachment from any of the www4mail
servers tend to be incompatible with certain web browsers and/or e-mail
programs. However, if you were to peruse the help documentation (by sending
a message with 'help' in the body to your www4mail server of choice - highly
recommended) you should've noticed the following:
: XBYJS (use one option line only!)
: Some Web browsers are not capable of transmitting data by e-mail,
: e.g., MS-IE v3.0. This problem usually shows up after you check
: the links that you would like to retrieve and select the "Get
: Selected Document(s)" button. What you get is that your mail
: program opens a new message with the address of the www4mail server
: appearing and the body of the message blank. You can use the XBYJS
: option to work-around this problem provided you are using a
: JavaScript compatible browser. Note: This work-around tries to fill
: in the Subject: line automatically instead of the message body
: needed by www4mail. But if you notice that the Subject: line is
: blank, you will need to cut out all characters starting from the ?
: sign in the To: field and paste them in the Subject: line manually.
If that doesn't work, the alternative would be to grab the text version of
the page ( GET http://www.somepage.dom/ ), find the address for whichever
link you're trying to jump to, and build your request manually.
Hope this was of assistance.
--
Johnathan Walde, 7572
- Darn American spellchecker. Whaddya mean, Poutine's not a word?
Show is over, eh. Itte kimasu.
KA-BOOM!
> -----Original Message-----
> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:47:31 -0400
> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ismael_Mart=EDnez_C=E1rdenas?=
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: <No subject given>
>
> Hi
> When I request a web page to a www4mail server, a massage returns with =
> a html attachment which has a 'Get selected Document(s)' in it. I select =
> some documents and press this botton. It creates a blank addressed =
> massege, and...? =20
> Ismael
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Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 01:56:07 EDT
From: Matt Bahls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Newbie needs help
Hi all,
I'm new to this www by e-mail thing and I need some questions answered.
1) Earlier today I tried to get some internet pages and I still haven't
got anything about them. I sent my message to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and in the body I put:
www
send (the address of the page)
What am I doing wrong? Should I try a different address?
2) The next question I have is how do I get files from ftp so I can use
the uudecode? (I have already got the decoder program successfully.)
3) Lastly, how do I get newsgroups via e-mail?
I tried to follow the instructions best I could that I got from the
rtfm.mit.edu address, but I just am kind of confused on these things.
Thanks,
Matt Bahls
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:21:07 -0500
From: Alfredo de la Cruz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: An opinion
At 15:54 4/18/1999 Gerald E. Boyd wrote:
"... nobody nowadays is much interested in computing history."
"... has become a point-and-click medium with no thought behind how
any of it works"
"How many people even care about programming? -- not many I'd
guess..."
These lines sound rather pessimistic. But they are not objective. The
computer world has expanded, is expanding, and will expand more and more
in the future. Although computers may be used merely for entertainment
or just mouse-clicking and performing actions without knowing what is
happening inside, I am sure, without statistics, that more and more
people are concerned with programming and computing history.
We, ACCmailers, do appreciate your efforts, Gerry. We want you to cheer
up, be optimistic, and continue teaching us how to access Internet by
e-mail methods.
Alfredo
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Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:45:54 EDT
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Listserv Software
On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:04:16 -0400 Godofredo Garay Alvarez wrote:
>Where can I get listserv software??
Free LISTSERV evaluation kits are available via anonymous FTP from
FTP.LSOFT.COM (CD LISTSERV).
Evaluation copies are fully functional, except for a capacity limit and
an expiration date. Evaluation kits are available for Windows NT,
Windows 95, unix, VMS and VM systems. For information on evaluation kits
for LMail (VM only), please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
LISTSERV Lite
The Free Edition is a freeware version of LISTSERV Lite, limited to a
maximum of
10 mailing lists with up to 500 subscribers each. This version costs
absolutely
nothing as long as the licensee does not derive a profit, directly or
indirectly, from
using the software. You can download the Free Edition from our WWW or
FTP
servers.
Download a LISTSERV Lite Free Edition kit for:
Windows NT (Intel)
Windows NT (Alpha)
Windows 95
AIX
BSDi 2.x
HP-UX 9.x
Irix 5.x
Linux
OSF/1
SCO 3.2v5
Solaris 2.x (SPARC)
Solaris 2.x (x86)
SunOS 4.x
OpenVMS AXP
OpenVMS VAX
See ftp://ftp.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-Lite/
The Free Edition also serves as an evaluation kit for the commercial
version of
LISTSERV Lite.
--
Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:59:50 EDT
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie needs help
On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 01:56:07 EDT Matt Bahls wrote:
>1) Earlier today I tried to get some internet pages and I still haven't
>got anything about them. I sent my message to
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] and in the body I put:
>www
>send (the address of the page)
>
>What am I doing wrong? Should I try a different address?
This server has been defunct since Dec97. You must be new (:>)
The latest listing of active servers is always at:
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1236/servers.html
The only active Agora servers are:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] (same site)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>2) The next question I have is how do I get files from ftp so I can use
>the uudecode? (I have already got the decoder program successfully.)
See http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1236/howto1.html
>3) Lastly, how do I get newsgroups via e-mail?
>I tried to follow the instructions best I could that I got from the
>rtfm.mit.edu address, but I just am kind of confused on these things.
See http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1236/howto2.html
Simple way to get them all. Use the UK agora and just add
howto1
howto2
howto3
servers
in the body of the message (no URLs required!)
--
Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:18:52 +0100
From: Netmiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Do any web-to-mail servers allow exceptions to banned words?
With a name like "uncle Willy"
I'm not surprised they refuse you
Your cousin should think more carefully
how he names files
to avoid such problems
for his family.
yours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-----Original Message-----
From: William C Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 21 April 1999 01:35
Subject: Do any web-to-mail servers allow exceptions to banned words?
>Hello all,
>
> Does anyone know if any of the web-to-mail
>servers, allow any exceptions to their banned 'word'
>list? If I send a request to an admin. of say one
>of the www4mail servers or a gopher explaining that
>the site/image is not porn, would the forward the
>doc.? Don't go and ask them, I will if nobody knows
>and says so.
>
> Case in point: My cousin set up a sight for
>his son, so family members can see pictures of the
>baby. One of the pictures is called Nakedbaby.jpg
>and is a standard baby on the rug shot (I think).
>Because the file name has the word NAKED in it the
>server bounces the request.
>
> Hypothetical: If I wanted to acess info
>about West Essex a server might bounce it because it
>conatains the word SEX. Also pages that refer to
>"naked-eye" astronomy would get banned. I did get a
>bounce on one of those before.
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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