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1. FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics
2. Mac decompression utilities? (2)
3. Help reg a free FTP client
4. Explorer Vs Netscape (2)
5. mailto: (2)
6. mail to FIDO (3)
7. submitting forms (2)
8. mail to FIDO X-no-archive:yes
9. ACCMAIL Digest - 30 Jul 1999 to 31 Jul 1999 (#1999-213)
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11. An e mail with a link to internet
12. Uganisha . Good JOb or ERRor
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 06:01:16 +0100
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Subject: FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 19:48:46 +1200
From: Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mac decompression utilities?
Gidday all,
I have Stuffit Expander 4.0.1 and it has served me well in the past. I had
access to a 'DOS Machine' so I could unzip files when I needed to. Now, I
find I can't and Stuffit Expander doesn't unzip unless you install the
DropStuff Expander.
I visited, by e-mail, Aladdin's Web site (after searching for DropStuff
with one of the search engines by e-mail) and *eventually* found some info
about it -- but it is shareware costing $30.00 which you have to pay before
downloading it.
Question.
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Is there a public domain decompression program/suite available? Better
still is there an FTP site that 'houses' mac programs? There may be some
other gems out there.
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Thanks in advance
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 20:40:47 +0530
From: Soundara Rajan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help reg a free FTP client
Hello Folks,
I tried downloading
<ftp://ftp.ipswitch.com/ipswitch/product_downloads/WS_FTPLE.exe, a free
FTP client called WS_FTP LE (Limited Edition).......could get all six
parts, but, Part 04 of 06 got accidentally deleted. I tried a couple of
times the following,
send ftp://ftp.ipswitch.com/ipswitch/product_downloads/WS_FTPLE_exe.004
but each time I got a message "Error 405 - The remote server may be
busy or the file name or path is wrong".
Please help me to get this missing part. Also please suggest how I can
combine all the six parts, before attempting to delploy the file.
Soundar Rajan N.S.
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 08:38:22 +0300
From: Subramaniam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Explorer Vs Netscape
Tried to get a form for submission thro the www mail server. While the
form came out alright with Netscape browser, got a garbled message as
?????????�???????????????????????????????????????????????????�????????
???????�??
with the Internet Explorer. Is there any thing wrong in my settings
for explorer. Also, please let me know as to how can I get the form in
the w4mail server message itself instead of getting as an attachment.
Many thanks
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 23:26:19 -0600
From: Justin Philips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mailto:
How does the mailto:// protocol work and do www4mail servers support them?
Just an email away...
Justin
Net-Tamer V 1.12 Beta - Test Drive
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 21:01:19 +0300
From: alx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mail to FIDO
Hello Accmailers!
I know a FIDO address. How can I mail there? Is It possible?
Thanks a lot.
Alexander Chernov.
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Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 00:00:33 +0600
From: K Sethu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: submitting forms
At 09:43:45 -0700 Sun, 1 Aug 1999 Gerald E. Boyd wrote :
>When I retrieve a web page
>using a ww4mail server, it comes as an attachment to Eudora. I click on
>the attachment link in Eudora and my browser opens with the web page
>form. I then fill out the form and click on the search or submit button
>in the browser. This in turns generates AN EMAIL MESSAGE that is sent
>back to the same www4mail server.
>
>Now where in the above did I say you need a full Internet connection?
>
I wish to point out that for dial up connections, the Eudora
(either Eudora Pro releases upto 3.x , or Eudora Light rel.1.x.(16))
can connect either through Winsock (which is TCP/IP) or through
Dial Up Shell Account Access. The latter access is what I have and it is
called the "e-mail only" access by my service provider. For this
type of access, the e-mail generated by a browser for a form obtained
from a www4mail server has to be put into Eudora, before mailing it
back to that www4mail server. I believe novices may feel a missing
link here - an obvious question being how the mail is transferred from
the browser to Eudora; and I suppose similar cases arise with other
similar e-mail programs for non-TCP/IP connections. I hope the
following would be useful for all those .
With IE4 that I have, in the settings dialog obtained via Menu
commands -> View -> Folder Options , tab -> Programs, the programs
for Mail can be chosen. If I choose Eudora Pro for this - then when I
browse a form obatined from a www4mail with IE4 and click "submit" or
(the likes) or the "Get Selected Document(s)" button, I get only
a *blank* message in Eudora Pro. I have not found any reason why the
IE4 / Eudora Pro combination should be so failing !
But fortunately two other choices for IE's mail program work for me -
Outlook Express or Netscape Messenger. In both cases the IE4 browser
generated message for sending back to the appropriate www4mail
server can be copied - (from "Outbox" in the case of OE and "Unsent
Messages" folder in case of N-S Messgenger) and then pasted onto
Eudora mail ;the message can then be sent to the correct www4mail server,
with our own subject header). In both cases, OE or N-S
Messenger, should be forced to be local (that is offline).
One good thing about so copying and sending the message is, we
can also look at the contents of the generated messages and get some
insight - especially in case of messages for search pages, as parameters
for search string are easily identifiable from the browser's reply
message to www4mail. (In case of Google.com I learnt about the useful
&start parameter this way, further to the &num, &sa parametrs on which
Frits Westra posted a very useful info. to this list few days back)
K Sethu
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:40:06 PDT
From: Lucian Skyeclathde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mail to FIDO X-no-archive:yes
>From: alx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: ACCMAIL Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 21:01:19 +0300
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Aug 02 11:00:47 1999
>Approved-By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Message-ID: <001701bedd11$077456c0$1a010f0a@alxx>
>
>
>
>I know a FIDO address. How can I mail there? Is It possible?
>
Dear Alexander:
Once you know the Fidonet address, it is indeed possible to send an Internet
e-mail message there.
Let us say that you want to send a e-mail message to Ivan Pushkin whose
Fidonet address is 1:2/3.4
The syntax of your e-mail message would be:
TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It occurs to me that you might also want to send an e-mail message to some
other network besides Fidonet.
If you ever do wish to do so, there is a definitive online manual on how to
send to those other networks.
The relevant Internet addresses are:
http://alabanza.com/kabacoff/Inter-Links/cgi/inmgq.pl
ftp://ftp.csd.uwm.edu/pub/internetwork-mail-guide
The best of luck to you in your cross-network communications.
Sincerely,
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 20:37:30 +0200
From: Jack Raats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mail to FIDO
alx wrote in a message to All:
a> Hello Accmailers!
a> I know a FIDO address. How can I mail there? Is It possible?
Yes,
Fidonetnaam@p<pointnr>.f<nodenr>.n<netnr>.z<zonenr>.fidonet.org
Example:
My name is Jack Raats and I've fidonet address 2:285/751.0
You should write your email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
With greetings ... Jack Raats
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:47:09 -0700
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Explorer Vs Netscape
At 08:38 AM 8/2/99 +0300, Subramaniam wrote the following:
>Also, please let me know as to how can I get the form in
>the w4mail server message itself instead of getting as an attachment.
Commands to www4mail:
send URL -- convert to ASCII and send back as plain text
get URL -- convert to ASCII and send back as plain text
get source URL -- retrieve the original unmodified HTML source in the
body
source URL -- same as get source
URL -- retrieve modified web page as an attachment
tsource URL -- retrieve the original unmodified HTML source as an
attachment using MIME
xsource URL -- retrieve the original unmodified HTML source in the body
All I normally use is "send URL" and "URL"
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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 20:36:48 +0200
From: Bo Bjulen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mac decompression utilities?
*** Chris Bannister:
>Is there a public domain decompression program/suite available? Better
>still is there an FTP site that 'houses' mac programs? There may be some
>other gems out there.
I don't know any free Mac program which will unzip -- but DropStuff
with Expander Enhancer is cheap for what it does.
The prime Mac software archive is Info-Mac (public domain, freeware,
shareware and demos). There are indeed plenty of gems there. The New
Zealand mirror is at <ftp://ftp.vuw.ac.nz/info-mac/> (Chris
Bannister's email address is in New Zealand). A full list of the
mirrors:
<http://hyperarchive.lcs.mit.edu/HyperArchive/Archive/help/mirror-list
.txt>.
Bo
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Bo Bjulen <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:40:27 -0700
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: submitting forms
At 12:00 AM 8/3/99 +0600, K Sethu wrote the following:
>I wish to point out that for dial up connections, the Eudora
>(either Eudora Pro releases upto 3.x , or Eudora Light rel.1.x.(16))
>can connect either through Winsock (which is TCP/IP) or through
>Dial Up Shell Account Access. The latter access is what I have and it is
>called the "e-mail only" access by my service provider. For this
>type of access, the e-mail generated by a browser for a form obtained
>from a www4mail server has to be put into Eudora, before mailing it
>back to that www4mail server. I believe novices may feel a missing
>link here - an obvious question being how the mail is transferred from
>the browser to Eudora; and I suppose similar cases arise with other
>similar e-mail programs for non-TCP/IP connections. I hope the
>following would be useful for all those .
>
>With IE4 that I have, in the settings dialog obtained via Menu
>commands -> View -> Folder Options , tab -> Programs, the programs
>for Mail can be chosen. If I choose Eudora Pro for this - then when I
>browse a form obatined from a www4mail with IE4 and click "submit" or
>(the likes) or the "Get Selected Document(s)" button, I get only
>a *blank* message in Eudora Pro. I have not found any reason why the
>IE4 / Eudora Pro combination should be so failing !
>
>But fortunately two other choices for IE's mail program work for me -
>Outlook Express or Netscape Messenger. In both cases the IE4 browser
>generated message for sending back to the appropriate www4mail
>server can be copied - (from "Outbox" in the case of OE and "Unsent
>Messages" folder in case of N-S Messgenger) and then pasted onto
>Eudora mail ;the message can then be sent to the correct www4mail server,
>with our own subject header). In both cases, OE or N-S
>Messenger, should be forced to be local (that is offline).
Superb answer. I never remotely imagined that from the original
question that an explanation of how to use your email client program
should be considered. I just took the question at face value, that is.
"how can email only users of the net do that?" Easy I thought, but I'd
guess I was wrong about that -- so am sorry about "peeve" mode answer.
--
Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 01:34:16 +0200
From: Graham Noble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ACCMAIL Digest - 30 Jul 1999 to 31 Jul 1999 (#1999-213)
Hi Accmailers,
When Outlook users send me email attachments, I get the message (on Outlook
Express) but at first sight no attachment. But the message is obviously much
bigger that just the message alone would be, so the attachment(s) must be
there somewhere. Questions:
1. Why does this happen?
2. What can I do on my side to extract the attachment(s)?
3. What can the Outlook user do?
Your help will be much appreciated.
Regards,
Graham Noble
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 23:59:00 +0100
From: David Kramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mail to FIDO
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Fidonetnaam@p<pointnr>.f<nodenr>.n<netnr>.z<zonenr>.fidonet.org
>
> Example:
> My name is Jack Raats and I've fidonet address 2:285/751.0
> You should write your email to:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Just to see whether it works, could somebody perhaps send me a mail at:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]?
Bye,
.''''
(-()() David
)
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 14:35:45 PDT
From: "Jerel D. Arbaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
}Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 20:59:04 +0500
}From: Rajan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
}Subject: Re: (Correction) RE: Interbot Service files
}
...
}
}Also, is <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a separate anon. remailer? It
}gets added automatically on when you try the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
}option.
}
This address is intended to be used from juno, to prevent juno from
tacking on their NAG-LINE text to the bottom of the message. (One of a
group of 4 line tags advertising juno.com) It just dumps whatever is
sent it to a bit bucket. The addresses existence in To: or Cc: is what
will do the trick. It is a common CC: for messages sent to accmail
servers or to mailing lists. It is not needed for THIS list due to the
name "listserv" in the posting addresses.
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| [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jerel.
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 14:47:07 PDT
From: "Jerel D. Arbaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: An e mail with a link to internet
}Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 20:56:52 +0100
}From: A VizcainoCulebra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
}Subject: An e mail with a link to internet
}
}Hello:
}
}I am trying to link into an e mail message an url address: I would like
}that the people who receive the e mail could click from the message and
}automatically open internet and access a gci questionnaire.
}Is this possible or am I dreaming?
}
}Thank you,
}
}A.
}
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Highly unreliable. The following methods work on SOME mail clients, but
rarely both on the same client:
<http://rtfm.mit.edu/usenet/>
<A http://rtfm.mit.edu/usenet/> click here to get to the usenet FAQs </A>
It will never work for, as example, juno version one users, as they have
no dirrect http access. It will work for less than 5% of all juno users
regardless, for the same reason.
accmail users often do not have direct http access.
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| [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jerel.
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 14:23:13 PDT
From: "Jerel D. Arbaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Uganisha . Good JOb or ERRor
}Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:05:07 +0400
}From: coffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
}Subject: Uganisha . Good JOb or ERRor
}
} Hi ACCMAILers !
}
}
}
} I GET FROM UGANISHA my requered file...........like
}
}
} ===================================================================
}
}MIME-Version: 1.0
...
}
}--===========_-1464993331==_============
}
}Content-Type: application/rar; name="regutils.rar"
}Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
}Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="regutils.rar"
}Content-Description: RAR archive data
}
...
}..........
}
}
}=======================================
}
}
}IS that OK ? HOw i can Decode it to RAR
}
If your quoted text did not kill too many users accmail digests, then so
far, so good. This is like the "begin ###" headers for streight
UU-encoded stuff.
You need a MIME decoder. The DOS uudeview tends to work with anything I
toss it short of damaged data. It is a bit slow. uudwin (a windows 3
version of uudview) also exists.
If you do not yet have a UU decoder, you will likely want to get a
bootstrap version of that first, to get past thev "How do I decode the
decoder?" problem. MUUD is the most common, but has trouble with SOME
systems. DEBUG scripts and basic programs to create a uudecode.com or
uudecode.exe are a more reliable method.
The FAQ shows ways to get MUUD, but I need to update my copy to check if
the others are listed.
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| [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jerel.
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 17:04:34 -0700
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mailto:
At 11:26 PM 8/2/99 -0600, Justin Philips wrote the following:
>How does the mailto:// protocol work?
RFC1738 Uniform Resource Locators (URL). T. Berners-Lee, L. Masinter, M.
McCahill. December 1994. (Format: TXT=51348 bytes) (Updated by
RFC1808, RFC2368) (Status: PROPOSED STANDARD)
http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/htbin/rfc/rfc1738.html
http://www.es.net/pub/rfcs/rfc1738.txt
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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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