There are 17 messages totalling 654 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. I need to find this file (2) 2. FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics 3. Host=? (2) 4. Frames, design, accessability, and the ADA. (2) 5. Who can help me ?? 6. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Server not Responding (2) 7. Kindly translate downloadslave.com message (3) 8. Q: can't subscribe to mailing lists (2) 9. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ASCII 12 Character (2) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ACCMAIL Info (automatically generated) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To UNSUBscribe: Send UNSUBSCRIBE ACCMAIL to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To get the ACCMAIL FAQ: Send e-mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" and enter only this line in the BODY of the note: send usenet/news.answers/internet-services/access-via-email ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 22:05:50 -0700 From: Abel Molina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: I need to find this file I was looking there but I didn�t find it. Please.... ==>> El 19/08/99 a las 10:03 am recib� este mensaje de Gerald E. Boyd desde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : *********** INICIO DEL MENSAJE ORIGINAL *********** >At 08:53 PM 8/18/99 -0700, Abel Molina wrote the following: > >>I have been searching the file bzip2dll.dll but it seems to be >dessapeared. >>Please, I need that file. If you have it please send it to me or tell me >>where can I donwload it. > >http://www.muraroa.demon.co.uk/ >-- >Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ACCMAIL Info (automatically generated) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >To UNSUBscribe: Send UNSUBSCRIBE ACCMAIL to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To get the ACCMAIL FAQ: Send e-mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >and enter only this line in the BODY of the note: >send usenet/news.answers/internet-services/access-via-email >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ *********** FINAL DEL MENSAJE ORIGINAL *********** --------------------------------<BVEBVE>-------------------------------- Abel Molina Landri�n Ing. Telecomunicaciones CENIAInternet. http://www.ceniai.inf.cu Dpto. Instalaciones 53-7-243601 al 03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ-UIN: 16840237 FAX: 1-815-3665792 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 06:01:10 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics for Thu 19 Aug 1999, posted Fri, 20 Aug 1999 05:00:22 GMT Less than 1 hour [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1-4 hours None 4-10 hours None More than 10 hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] Response within 4 hours in at least 5 out of 7 recent tests [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note: [EMAIL PROTECTED] doesn't reply to .net or .com addresses. This data is generated automatically around 0600 GMT/BST most days. The performance reported is dependant on many factors and your experience may vary. You can also access this list: On the Web at http://www.netservs.com/mrcool/stats.htm (We recently discontinued the copy available via FTP) Mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and say "get file stats.txt" (no quotes) Want this list every day? Send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and in the body of your message put "join statistics" (no quotes) No liability is accepted for inaccuracies. Mirroring, links to and copying of this entire file (not extracts) is permitted until further notice. Slow downloads? Try Mr. Cool! See http://www.netservs.com/mrcool/ Copyright Net Services 1999. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:56:22 +0800 From: "Richard Glenn R. Aceron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Host=? Khoa N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >What host can i use to get a file from a FTP server >via GopherMail ? (Host=?) >TIA. > Why don't you use a bitftp server? [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Richard Glenn R. Aceron [EMAIL PROTECTED] "'Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt." - =|:-)= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:32:30 -0500 From: Lloyd Colston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: I need to find this file Try http://solo.abac.com/dllarchive/ > I have been searching the file bzip2dll.dll but it seems to be > dessapeared. Please, I need that file. If you have it please send it to me > or tell me where can I donwload it. First, tell me that you have it. I > don�t want to receive millions of copies. > Lloyd Colston Excellence is not an accident Pryor, OK USA social worker, writer, editor KC5FM Home page http://www.Lloyd.Colston.com/ Journalism is literature in a hurry. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:01:12 +0200 From: Dirk Lotze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Frames, design, accessability, and the ADA. > current proposal is a framed site. I was wondering about the > ability of the blind and vision impaired to successfully access > this site as well any other groups that may have problems with > such a site. If done thoughtfully the use of frames will not be a problem for anyone. There are two main issues with frames and both can be bypassed: 1.) Ergonomic design. Users have expectations about the outcome when they cause an action. If something unexpected happens, they are confused. E.G. if someone clicks a link and the most part of the screen stays the same, she will be confused. It can also be annoying if you need to scroll a frame that has no visible border / scrollbars. 2.) Technical accessability with "old" or text-only browsers. Most web-authors know that some browsers can't display frames. Unfortunately most of them use the < noframes > tag simply to tell their readers, that "if you see this, go get a better browser"; a practice that I consider most rude. For those that are not web-authors: A web-page that defines frames may contain a section (the "< noframes >" section) that will be ignored by frames-compliant browsers. It can contain any markup text, which will be the only text rendered by non-frames-browsers. So this < noframes >-section is obviously the place to use for a special page, giving access to the main contents pages. If suitable you can even copy and paste the entire < body > of some main page, e.g. the welcome page or the site map. Obviously it is advisable to place sufficient navigational elements on every content page, so readers won't get stuck somewhere. This is important anyway, because people don't always begin reading at the start page; reading can begin on any page if e.g. the reader was referred to the site by a search engine. An objection to be considered: If you need to have navigational elements on each page anyway, what is the use of frames? Indeed most sites work quite well without frames. For reading I recommend Web Content Accessibility Guidelines 1.0 (by W3C) http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT These guidelines do not condem the use of frames, multimedia etc. Instead they point out how these elements can be used thoughtfully without diminishing accessability. Dirk --- Dirk Lotze Musikmanagement http://www.DLmusik.nvo.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:39:28 +0430 From: Amir Mortazavi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Who can help me ?? Dear friends : Hi . I have access only to email not to Internet sites . Are there any ways for downloading a web page including pictures by email ? Thanks, Amir ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:50:19 -0700 From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Server not Responding At 12:47 PM 8/19/99 -0500, Victor Orellano wrote the following: >Can someone PLEASE tell me if the server [EMAIL PROTECTED] >is defunct. I send it requests but it does not respond. >It is listed in the servers.html as active. Quite possibly. I don't get an answer from the owner or the server. But then again, it could be one of the temporary outages this location has that lasts a week or more. -- Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:55:18 -0500 From: Victor Orellano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Kindly translate downloadslave.com message -------------------- Mr. Boyd I send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and this is the message I received: [ Wegen technischer Probleme sind zur Zeit nur 1 URL pro [ EMail-Request moeglich. Fuer den URLRequester gilt weiter- [ hin 6 URLs pro Request. [ Hinweise unter : [ http://www.downloadslave.com/forum.htm I so no password. Would you be so kind to translate it for me? Also, could you please tell me if the server [EMAIL PROTECTED] is still active. I receive no reply at all. Thanks. Victor -------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:27:04 +0100 From: Netmiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Frames, design, accessability, and the ADA. You are quite right about frames being a big difficulty as regards accessibility. Here are a couple of sites with information which you might want to quote from when arguing with whomever Arguments about the use of frames can be found at http://web.mit.edu/cwis/frames/ or read the article on "Why Frames Suck" at http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html These are taken from my page at http://members.tripod.co.uk/netmiser/webdes.htm where you will find other links which may assist you. A message on a web-designer list to which I subscribe mentioned recently that one of the problems with framed sites as regards accessibility was the failure of designers to give "titles" to the frames so if you fail in your quest to get a non-framed site you might at least persuade them take some further care to make the site accessible. yours [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: William C Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 19 August 1999 07:20 Subject: Frames, design, accessability, and the ADA. >Cross posted ACCMAIL & HELP-NET >Mr. Boyd can you please forward this to list(s) or newsgroups >that you are on/check that concern the vision impaired accessing >the net? Thank you. > >Hello all, > >A while back (about 6 months or more) there was a discussion on >designing websites for maximum accessability (I believe it was on >Help-Net). A website for my employer (a department in a major >city government) is going to under go a major overhaul and the >current proposal is a framed site. I was wondering about the >ability of the blind and vision impaired to successfully access >this site as well any other groups that may have problems with >such a site. > >I was wondering if anyone has anything to say if this would be >in non-compliance with the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA). >This is something that governments need to be incompliance with. >The reason that this is being cross-posted is that it relates to >Helping the blind access the Net and frames are an impediment to >ACCessing the web by eMAIL. > >Making the site maximally accessible to 'disadvantaged' (read >'differently able' for the political correctness crowd) (both >those that have limited vision and/or limited access) is >important to me. I think that by forcing the hand of a local >government on a relatively unimportant site may be a leverage >point and possibly be precedent setting (potentially legally). > >Please feel free to send me mail directly. > >-- >William Andrews >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Runway/3091/ >editor http://dmoz.org/Arts/Music/Bands_and_Artists/V/Vega,_Suzanne/ > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 19:58:56 +0300 From: ZP Systema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Q: can't subscribe to mailing lists Hi My name is Sergey and I support FSF I have obtained emacs package from Internet and compiled it under SCO Open Server But I have some problems with i18n of emacs >From the file share/emacs/20.1/etc/MAILINGLISTS I knew about mailing lists where I can get answers for my questions. So I sent blank mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I've got nothing :( Where was my mistake? Thank you for my question reviewing Best regards Sergey Spiridonov -- Software Design and Production Company ZP "Sistema" [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 20:23:15 +0200 From: Johannes Posel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Kindly translate downloadslave.com message Hi Victor, > [ Wegen technischer Probleme sind zur Zeit nur 1 URL pro > [ EMail-Request moeglich. Fuer den URLRequester gilt weiter- > [ hin 6 URLs pro Request. > [ Hinweise unter : > [ http://www.downloadslave.com/forum.htm This means: "Because of technical issues there's currently a limit of 1 URL per eMail-Request and 6 URLs per Request using the program URL-Requester [note: because this inserts a 30 seconds banner >:)] More information availiable at http://www.downloadslave.com/forum.htm (in german" > I so no password. Would you be so kind to translate it for me? See below. You should get your password with mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=REMEMBER%20PASSWORD > Thanks. > Victor HTH, Johannes -- ~ Johannes Posel ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ ~ Homepage @ http://posel.home.pages.de ~ ~ Nur wer gegen den Strom schwimmt kommt zur Quelle ~ ~ Made in Germany, content includes 100 percent electrons ~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:05:08 -0500 From: Victor Orellano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ASCII 12 Character -------------------- Mr. Boyd In your howto1.html you mention of [EMAIL PROTECTED] as a complicated gopher server. I have tried many ways to get the ASCII 12 Character, without any success. Would you be so kind as to tell me how to get the character. If you could display it in your response, I could copy and paste it, if possible. Thanks. Victor -------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:07:58 -0700 From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Host=? At 09:55 AM 8/19/99 -0700, Khoa N wrote the following: >What host can i use to get a file from a FTP server >via GopherMail ? (Host=?) I use gopher.eunet.cz However any gopher server that is working should allow file transfers. I prefer to use the gopher servers at the sites that still support gophermail. gopher.eunet.cz gopher.dna.affrc.go.jp gopher.ncc.go.jp -- Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:12:32 -0700 From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Q: can't subscribe to mailing lists At 07:58 PM 8/20/99 +0300, ZP Systema wrote the following: >So I sent blank mail to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >and I've got nothing :( > >Where was my mistake? This is an off-topic posting for this list. Please list members, let's try to stay on the topic of accessing the Internet by email rather than where can I get some piece of software. With that said, here is an answer. Subject: Re: Q: can't subscribe to mailing lists (If you followed the procedure below completely and it didn't work, write back and we will add your name manually and look into this.) Most gnu mailing lists can be subscribed to by writing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (where "foo" is the name of the list you are trying subscribe to) with "subscribe" in the body of the message. You can subscribe an arbitrary address (as opposed to the one you are mailing from) by putting "subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]" in the body of the message. (Where "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" is the address you want to get the mail at.) -- Brian Youmans FSF Office Staff Free Software Foundation | A 501 (c) 3 not-for-profit 59 Temple Place, Suite 330 | corporation; contributions Boston, MA 02111-1307 USA | are tax-deductible in the | USA. voice: +1-617-542-5942 | fax: +1-617-542-2652 | Support Project GNU... web: http://www.gnu.org | GNU's Not Unix! -- Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:19:21 -0700 From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ASCII 12 Character At 02:05 PM 8/20/99 -0500, Victor Orellano wrote the following: >In your howto1.html you mention of [EMAIL PROTECTED] as a complicated >gopher server. > >I have tried many ways to get the ASCII 12 Character, without any >success. Would you be so kind as to tell me how to get the character. > >If you could display it in your response, I could copy and paste it, >if possible. Open up a DOS window. Use a plain DOS editor and open up a new file and calle ascii12 or eject or pageeject or some such name so you will know what it contains. Using the Alt key and the number keypad, type Alt -12 and you should see the page eject sysmbol which looks like a circle with a cros at the bottom. Another way, send a blank message to a gophermail server and it will return you with the menu listing and the symbol in it. -- Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:30:48 -0700 From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Kindly translate downloadslave.com message At 10:55 AM 8/20/99 -0500, Victor Orellano wrote the following: >Also, could you please tell me if the server [EMAIL PROTECTED] >is still active. I receive no reply at all. Quite possibly. I don't get an answer from the owner or the server. But then again, it could be one of the temporary outages this location has that lasts a week or more. -- Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 00:28:00 +0100 From: Steve Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Server not Responding My stats robot last got a response from it on 15 July Steve Harris - Net Services Fast modem but slow downloads? Try Mr. Cool! http://www.netservs.com/mrcool/ or mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and say: get file mrcooli.exe ------------------------------ End of ACCMAIL Digest - 19 Aug 1999 to 20 Aug 1999 (#1999-233) **************************************************************
