There are 16 messages totalling 681 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. e-mail ??????? 2. FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics 3. FAQ and back issues (2) 4. Downloadslave registration - not proper. (2) 5. <No subject given> 6. is the page http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1236/servers.htm available? 7. ACCMAIL Digest - 18 Oct 1999 to 19 Oct 1999 (#1999-293) 8. Thanks 9. NEWS: New Versions of Accmail FAQ 10. Problems with messages to www4mail@bellanet (2) 11. Intel Chipset 12. winmail.dat (was digest) 13. www4email with advertisement ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ACCMAIL Info (automatically generated) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To UNSUBscribe: Send UNSUBSCRIBE ACCMAIL to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To get the ACCMAIL FAQ: Send e-mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" and enter only this line in the BODY of the note: send usenet/news.answers/internet-services/access-via-email ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:40:44 -0700 From: Char W Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: e-mail ??????? There's only one problem with the solution you gave. It doesn't work. Well actually it does work but not with Pocketmail. The mailbot sends all of the replies as ZIP attachments that pocketmail can't read. Do you know of a way around this? Thanks >hello i have a device called pocketmail it can >recieve e-mail messages of 4000 characters or >less is there any way to download the text >portions of a web. and also can this be done >in 4000 character sections. SURE! try this, send a message as follows: TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (leave blank) Body: XNOSTAT GETSIZE 4000 GET http://nasa.gov/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 06:02:04 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics for Wed 20 Oct 1999, posted Thu, 21 Oct 1999 05:00:14 GMT Less than 1 hour [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1-4 hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4-10 hours None More than 10 hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] Response within 4 hours in at least 5 out of 7 recent tests [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note: [EMAIL PROTECTED] doesn't reply to .net or .com addresses. This data is generated automatically around 0600 GMT/BST most days. The performance reported is dependant on many factors and your experience may vary. You can also access this list: On the Web at http://www.netservs.com/mrcool/stats.htm (We recently discontinued the copy available via FTP) Mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and say "get file stats.txt" (no quotes) Want this list every day? Send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and in the body of your message put "join statistics" (no quotes) No liability is accepted for inaccuracies. Mirroring, links to and copying of this entire file (not extracts) is permitted until further notice. Slow downloads? Try Mr. Cool! See http://www.netservs.com/mrcool/ Copyright Net Services 1999. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 07:23:39 +0200 From: thierry nesztler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: FAQ and back issues Hi Gerald, In france, phone calls are very expensive (about $0.1 per three first minutes and more after). So i use Email to get web. I think, the best way to learn more about mail to web is to read your accmail Digest. Should it be possible to get any back issues ( by example, a request from a number) ? Are there any frequently asked questions ? Best regards Thierry Nesztler ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 12:54:41 +0500 From: S RAMAMURTHY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Downloadslave registration - not proper. Johannes Posel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote, Ok. First of all send an empty mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], you'll get a password then by reply. Cheers, Johannes No password is generated. But instead an unreadable french message came back as follows; URLRequester 3.0 fuer Windows 95/98/NT Unsere Mailschnittstelle fuer Requests ist oft ausgelastet. Bitte benutzen Sie den URLRequester 3.0 um Ihre Anfragen an uns abzusenden. Den URLRequester finden Sie unter : http://www.downloadslave.com/urlrequester.zip Ihr DOWNLOADSLAVE-TEAM Where is the password in this message ? Kindly clarify Azeem. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 10:31:13 -0700 From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: <No subject given> quiet delete accmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 06:37:21 -0500 From: Lloyd Colston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: is the page http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1236/servers.htm available? No but http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1236/ isstill up. > Hello accmailers, > > I have been writing many times to the agora asking for the page: > > http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1236/servers.htm > > And got: > > There are no references from this document. > > Is there any other mirror to that page? > > Thanks. > Lloyd Colston Excellence is not an accident Pryor, OK USA social worker, writer, editor KC5FM Home page http://www.Lloyd.Colston.com/ Journalism is literature in a hurry --Matthew Arnold ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 16:11:59 +-3-30 From: Mehdi Bordbari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: ACCMAIL Digest - 18 Oct 1999 to 19 Oct 1999 (#1999-293) HELLO everybody What's mean of this mail and how can I get more information about that URL ? [[ MAPI 1.0 embedded message : 3076 in WINMAIL.DAT ]] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 00:10:32 +0500 From: A-27 Paradise Homes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Thanks Hello accmailers, I'd like to really really thank Johannes for giving me assistance. I have always wondered how people like Mr.Boyd and Johannes find time to help us people out. Thanks. This list is great. Ahad ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 21:40:22 +0200 From: Johannes Posel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Downloadslave registration - not proper. Dear Azeem, > No password is generated. But instead an unreadable french message came > back as follows; *lol* it's german ;) > Unsere Mailschnittstelle fuer Requests ist oft ausgelastet. Bitte > benutzen Sie den URLRequester 3.0 um Ihre Anfragen an uns > abzusenden. "Our mail gateway is often at it's limit". They suggest using their freeware URLRequester (which is also available in english language) to perform the request. You can get it at: > http://www.downloadslave.com/urlrequester.zip The plus is you can send more requests in, minus is you see an ad for 20 seconds. Please note! The program doesn't require you to be online, a working SMTP server to send mails is enough :) > Where is the password in this message ? Kindly clarify It seems to me they want to cut off their mail part :/ > Azeem. Feel free to ask further if need is to ;) Cheers, Johannes -- ~ Johannes Posel ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ ~ Homepage @ http://posel.home.pages.de ~ ~ Can be recycled, content is 100 percent electrons ~ ~ PGP-signed eMails welcome :) Check out http://www.pgpi.com ~ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 13:16:19 -0700 From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: FAQ and back issues At 07:23 AM 10/21/99 +0200, thierry nesztler wrote the following: >In france, phone calls are very expensive (about $0.1 per three first >minutes and more after). So i use Email to get web. I think, the best >way to learn more about mail to web is to read your accmail Digest. >Should it be possible to get any back issues ( by example, a request >from a number) ? Many users on the ACCMAIL mailing list miss a digest or a portion of one or an individual posting or accidently delete a digest or posting that they intended to keep and wonder how to retrieve it. For this reason I will show you how to search and retrieve a missed posting or digest or any posting for that matter. The individual postings to the ACCMAIL mailing list are sent out one at a time or in the form of a digest. The digest is formed by automagically combining the individual postings and sending them out at the end of the current day. The digests are then combined into logs and archived. The logs contain from 1 to 7 days of digests. A document you should all have is the LISTSERV reference card. This is a list of LISTSERV commands (including search commands and parameters) and can be retrieved by sending email as follows: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or any LISTSERV that you are subscribed to. Subject: [leave blank] Body: INFO REFCARD NOTE: The DATABASE command is not implemented for the ACCMAIL mailing list. Now to find the archives at ACCMAIL, send mail as follows: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [leave blank] Body: INDEX ACCMAIL You will be returned with a document that looks like the following: * * Archive files for the ACCMAIL list at LISTSERV.AOL.COM * (weekly logs) * * filename filetype GET PUT size (bytes) date time * -------- -------- --- --- ------------ ---------- -------- ACCMAIL LOG9901A LOG OWN 171,720 1999-01-07 15:38:11 ACCMAIL LOG9901B LOG OWN 178,464 1999-01-14 21:54:54 ACCMAIL LOG9901C LOG OWN 221,281 1999-01-21 20:12:32 ACCMAIL LOG9901D LOG OWN 182,186 1999-01-28 22:06:48 ACCMAIL LOG9901E LOG OWN 87,950 1999-01-31 16:23:22 ACCMAIL LOG9902A LOG OWN 182,712 1999-02-07 20:18:00 ...skip middle months for brevity... ACCMAIL LOG9909A LOG OWN 116,021 1999-09-07 17:17:52 ACCMAIL LOG9909B LOG OWN 162,851 1999-09-14 16:59:44 ACCMAIL LOG9909C LOG OWN 139,668 1999-09-21 19:45:55 ACCMAIL LOG9909D LOG OWN 105,879 1999-09-28 14:02:34 ACCMAIL LOG9909E LOG OWN 26,334 1999-09-30 13:19:12 ACCMAIL LOG9910A LOG OWN 100,886 1999-10-07 14:31:50 ACCMAIL LOG9910B LOG OWN 89,946 1999-10-14 22:37:26 ACCMAIL LOG9910C LOG OWN 107,287 1999-10-21 14:26:30 What good is this listing? Well, suppose you missed a posting or several postings or a digest for February 5 or February 6, 1999. The missing postings for Feb 5 and Feb 6 would be found in 6th archive listed above, that is, LOG9902A. To retrieve this archive, send email as follows: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [leave blank] Body: GET ACCMAIL LOG9902A To split very large files into manageable chunks, you can specify the SPLIT=integer parameter. The integer value is the size you want the chunks to be generated, in kilobytes. For instance if you were ordering the 182,712 byte file above and wanted to break it into 60KB chunks, you would specify SPLIT=60. This is handy for people whose mail systems place a limit on the size of an individual mail message that may be received by a given user. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [leave blank] Body: GET ACCMAIL LOG9902A SPLIT=60 You will be returned with the archive that contains postings from after 1999-1-31 16:23:22 up to 1999-02-07 20:18:00. The time for these logs is local time or -0500 (EST). Another example. You missed a posting from the digest for 13 Oct 1999 to 14 Oct 1999 (#1999-288). Suppose you know it was about "uploading to an ftp site". How do you retrieve it? To retrieve this missing posting, send email as follows: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [leave blank] Body: SEARCH ACCMAIL uploading to an ftp site FROM TODAY-8 TO TODAY-7 Why did I specify the search in this manner? That is: SEARCH ACCMAIL uploading to an ftp site FROM TODAY-8 TO TODAY-7 Assuming the current day is 21 Oct 1999 then we know the missing mail was in the period 13 Oct (TODAY-8) to 14 Oct (TODAY-7) and the Subject: was uploading to an ftp site. If the current date is more than 30 days from the date of the posting you wish to retrieve, then you can use the format YY/MM/DD instead of the TODAY format. The above search could be rewritten as: SEARCH ACCMAIL Uploading to an ftp site FROM 99/10/13 TO 99/10/14 NOTE: Now you know why you should *ALWAYS* use a descriptive Subject: line in postings to ACCMAIL (or any mailing list for that matter). Notice that subjects like: ACCMAIL Digest - 13 Oct 1999 to 14 Oct 1999 (#1999-288) Question Help Inquiry don't really help you to find anything in the archive. Please make sure you always use a descriptive subject line in your email messages. The search above will return you a piece of mail similar to: > SEARCH ACCMAIL uploading to an ftp site FROM TODAY-8 TO TODAY-7 -> 2 matches. Item # Date Time Recs Subject ------ ---- ---- ---- ------- 003708 99/10/14 17:43 35 uploading to an ftp site 003712 99/10/14 09:31 45 Re: uploading to an ftp site To order a copy of these postings, send the following command: GETPOST ACCMAIL 3708 3712 [snip] Now you notice that this piece of mail gives you the instructions on how to receive a posting. Let's say you decide you only want the second one, Item# 003712. Send email as follows: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [leave blank] Body: GETPOST ACCMAIL 3712 NOTE: When retrieving a posting you can omit the leading zeros from the Item# If you want more than one posting just separate with a space or use a range. Body: GETPOST ACCMAIL 3708 3712 or Body: GETPOST ACCMAIL 3681 3708-3712 >Are there any frequently asked questions ? Other than the Accmail FAQ, no, but I'm beginning to wonder if we need another document of just Q&As. If anybody has some suggestions for another FAQ please send them to me, especially if you know the typical questions and answers that are asked. This changes over time and most of the questions currently seem to resolve around www4mail. The only one that I know of that has been with us for 5 years or more is "can you upload to a ftp site by email?" -- Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 13:55:32 -0700 From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: NEWS: New Versions of Accmail FAQ Accmailers, Sorry, I forgetten to rmind users of new version of the Accmail FAQ. The Hungarian and German versions have been upgraded to version 8.4 A new Romanian version 8 is now avialable. The translators names are in each Accmail FAQ. Credit will be shown in the next English version. To get any of these, send email: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: send accmail.de or Subject: send accmail.hu or Subject: send accmail.ro Remember, nothing else. Just a subject line, nothing in the body and no signature file in the body. My autoresponder only understands the subject line. -- Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 15:16:47 -0400 From: Leonardo Quintero Morales <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Problems with messages to www4mail@bellanet Most of the time when I send a message to www4@bellanet to get http://free.dorm.org/dnews/rr_news/dnewsweb.exe and read a newsgroup the answer is an error message that contain in the original URL a lot of "3D" Please someone can tell what is wrong for me Thanks leo ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 15:26:24 -0700 From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Problems with messages to www4mail@bellanet At 03:16 PM 10/21/99 -0400, Leonardo Quintero Morales wrote the following: >Most of the time when I send a message to www4@bellanet >to get http://free.dorm.org/dnews/rr_news/dnewsweb.exe >and read a newsgroup the answer is an error message >that contain in the original URL a lot of "3D" >Please someone can tell what is wrong for me The stupid site moved. It's now called sucknews.com. Grab this web page: http://www.sucknews.com/top.htm -- Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 15:34:29 -0700 From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Intel Chipset At 02:55 PM 10/20/99 +0330, Nader Mirzaee wrote the following: >I am looking for information about the Intel chipset.What is it ? chipset A number of integrated circuits designed to perform one or more related functions. For example, one chipset may provide the basic functions of a modem while another provides the CPU functions for a computer. Newer chipsets generally include functions provided by two or more older chipsets. In some cases, older chipsets that required two or more physical chips can be replaced with a chipset on one chip. Intel has a number of chipsets. Start here: http://www.intel.com/sites/corporate/search.htm -- Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 15:39:42 -0700 From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: winmail.dat (was digest) At 04:11 PM 10/21/99 +-3-30, Mehdi Bordbari wrote the following: >What's mean of this mail and how can I get more information about that URL ? >[[ MAPI 1.0 embedded message : 3076 in WINMAIL.DAT ]] Next time you post to this list how about adding a descriptive subject line? Accmail digest just isn't good enough. I thought we had seen the last of winmail.dat files. These attachments contain Exchange's rich text information, encoding attributes of the message such as boldface, underlining, fonts, and colors. Exchange/Internet Mail puts these attributes into an attachment so that they can appear to other Exchange users on the Internet. The problem arises when people not using Exchange receive these attachments: instead of seeing a formatted message, they see a big chunk of UUENCODE data named WINMAIL.DAT if you're using UUENCODE, or a section application/ms-tnef if you're using MIME, each full of encoded data. For communicating with users of other clients, Exchange contains an option to suppress sending rich text information when mailing them. If you double-click on an underlined recipient (the underline means that Exchange has recognized the name, and associated an address with it) in the To or Cc fields on the message form, and you're using the Internet Mail provider, you'll see a check box labeled Send to this recipient in Microsoft rich text format. Always clear this check box if you suspect that your recipient isn't using Exchange. If this flag is clear for every recipient on a message, Exchange/Internet Mail will strip the rich text information when it sends it, eliminating the mysterious binary attachments. Note however that if the message has multiple recipients, and any one of them has the flag set, Exchange will include the rich text attachments in the message, which all recipients will receive, regardless of their particular flag setting. (Supposedly Microsoft has corrected this last flaw in the versions of the client released with Exchange Server and the Windows Messaging update for Windows 95.) Whether this flag initially appears set or not depends on the origin of that underlined name. If you got the name by typing a literal [EMAIL PROTECTED] SMTP address, or by entering the address in Exchange's explicit one-off format - i.e. by typing [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] - the check box will be clear by default (unless you are using the version of Exchange released with retail Windows 95, in which case the checkbox will appear set by default - ugh). If you got the name by typing a name and letting the system pick an entry from your Personal Address Book, the checkbox will have whatever value you have set on the name in your PAB. Finally, here's the tricky part: if you got the name by giving the reply command in Exchange, Exchange guesses as to whether this checkbox should be set or not, and when replying to messages sent to Internet mailing lists, where those messages have an explicit Reply-To header, using the versions of Microsoft Exchange and the Internet Mail provider released with retail Windows95, Exchange guesses wrong. You can see this by reading in Exchange a message addressed to a mailing list, giving the reply command, then double-clicking on the recipient you see in the To field of the note form, and there checking the setting of the rich text check box. You can work around this either by replacing the reply address with an entry from your PAB that you know has rich text disabled, or else by always manually clearing the check box as needed. You can also install my Rich Text Sentry widget, which does this for you auto-magically. Microsoft has their own explanation of this phenomenon in the KnowledgeBase article Q136204. The entire preceding discussion assumes that you are using either the Internet Mail (SMTP/POP3) or Microsoft Exchange Server messaging service. If instead you are using the Microsoft Mail messaging service, and depending on a Microsoft Mail gateway to carry your message onto the Internet, you are out of luck, unless you have a gateway clever enough to strip WINMAIL.DAT. -- Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 21:05:10 EDT From: William C Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: www4email with advertisement Howdy folks, Scaracco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I have the project to start a www4mail server, but I am a >private not a university, so I think the cost of the dedicated >line can be afforded by some advertisement put in the body of >the attachement. > >What do you think about? The "only-by-email" people will accept >this kind of commercial service? Bravo! I think that many would accept this. But, Don't force MIME attachments. Some people would like a www4mail or other server that didn't have resrictions to certain types of site. One might get flooded with requests if this was known, though. I would use an additonal www4 to help spread the load around. If you do implement a new www4 server, please, please, implement the cookie jar like the Italian server has. Also maybe expand the function of the cookies,etc. -- William Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Runway/3091/ Reduce-Reuse-Recycle Shun including the entire text in replies. ------------------------------ End of ACCMAIL Digest - 20 Oct 1999 to 21 Oct 1999 (#1999-295) **************************************************************
