Hello Hannes and Göran, Pardon me if I am missing some (background) information here. If this (https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/ace/charter/) is the ACE charter, it does not exclude the use of certificates to solve the authentication problem. And without solving the enrolment (process of certifying public keys), the use of certificates is not practical. For individual profiles (DTLS, OSCOAP, IPsec, etc. ) too, without certificate enrolment, the story to establish a secure session between RS and C is incomplete. Symmetric and raw-public keys are by definition pre- or manually shared; however, certificates are enrolled before use. I therefore consider certificate enrolment a part of complete "authentication and authorisation solution” and hence the charter.
Of course, we should discuss profiles first ;) Best, Shahid On 27 Sep 2017, at 19:32, Hannes Tschofenig <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Yes, good point. We need to make progress with our chartered items first. On 09/27/2017 07:29 PM, Kathleen Moriarty wrote: Goran has a good point here. Kathleen On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 1:04 PM, Göran Selander <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: As I mentioned in a previous mail, I’m completely against giving priority to non-charter items. Therefore the first interim meeting should be focused on the ACE roadmap - the output from the Wiki activity. If we have time to discuss certificate enrolment, that is fine. If we want a later interim for the certificate enrolment discussion that is fine too, as long as there is sufficient time is given to decide on the ongoing work. Göran On 2017-09-27 18:34, "Ace on behalf of Hannes Tschofenig" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> on behalf of [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Fair enough. We either need to make it longer or pick two dates. I prefer the latter. On 09/27/2017 06:23 PM, Kathleen Moriarty wrote: Sure, my response was to make it clear the wiki was to be discussed though. Will this all be on one call or two? The announcement wasn't clear and I'd like ot make sure the WG is ready for the profiles discussion. Best, Kathleen On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Hannes Tschofenig <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I agree with Kepeng that we also wanted to discuss the certificate enrollment in addition to the Wiki. On 09/27/2017 05:23 PM, Kathleen Moriarty wrote: Hello Kepeng, The interim should also be to discuss the profiles as that was a priority from the WG session in Prague. Goran pulled together the wiki, now it's up to the WG participants to check the wiki and amend as needed to allow for a productive session. Or did you plan on two interims? Timing is tight for that though. Best regards, Kathleen On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 9:44 PM, Kepeng Li <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi all, According to our IETF 99 meeting minutes, we will hold an interim meeting on certificate enrolment in constrained environments. https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/99/materials/minutes-99-ace/ We proposed three options for the meeting time: 1. 17th Oct, Tuesday, GMT 13:00 ~ 14:00. 2. 18th Oct, Wednesday, GMT 13:00 ~ 14:00. 3. 19th Oct, Thursday, GMT 13:00 ~ 14:00. Please indicate your available time from the doodle poll: https://doodle.com/poll/ig3bhr7tfb2xh4u4 Hannes and I will prepare the agenda and send out later. We may add other topics to the agenda. Thanks. Kind Regards Kepeng & Hannes _______________________________________________ Ace mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ace _______________________________________________ Ace mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ace
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