Hi Mike, I had specifically reached out to the chairs asking for a virtual interim on the profiles and was surprised by that not being listed. This was a result of agreement at the face to face. It's not that one is being held hostage, Kepeng has already offered to run 2 separate sessions within the same week. Maybe you missed a message?
Best, Kathleen Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 28, 2017, at 1:21 PM, Michael StJohns <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 9/27/2017 1:29 PM, Kathleen Moriarty wrote: >> Goran has a good point here. > > Actually - I don't think he does. If there is a sufficiently interested > group of people that want to talk certificate enrollment and there is a chair > available and willing then do an interim on that. If there is a group of > sufficiently interested group of people that want to talk about the roadmap > then do an interim on that. If ACE doesn't want to have such an interim then > perhaps it still gets done as a virtual BOF. But this has as much legitimacy > as any of the other ACE work items. > > Virtual interims have another more common name - teleconferences. They're > cheap to hold. > > Don't hold the certificate stuff hostage to the roadmap stuff and don't > confuse a F2F interim with a virtual interim with respect to providing a > false either or choice. > > The IETF is bottom up - we work on what the members are interested in working > on. It's not a great idea holding one idea hostage as a means of trying to > get work done on something else. > > Later, Mike > >> >> Kathleen >> >> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 1:04 PM, Göran Selander >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> As I mentioned in a previous mail, I’m completely against giving priority >>> to non-charter items. Therefore the first interim meeting should be >>> focused on the ACE roadmap - the output from the Wiki activity. If we have >>> time to discuss certificate enrolment, that is fine. If we want a later >>> interim for the certificate enrolment discussion that is fine too, as long >>> as there is sufficient time is given to decide on the ongoing work. >>> >>> Göran >>> >>> >>> On 2017-09-27 18:34, "Ace on behalf of Hannes Tschofenig" >>> <[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Fair enough. >>>> >>>> We either need to make it longer or pick two dates. I prefer the latter. >>>> >>>>> On 09/27/2017 06:23 PM, Kathleen Moriarty wrote: >>>>> Sure, my response was to make it clear the wiki was to be discussed >>>>> though. Will this all be on one call or two? The announcement wasn't >>>>> clear and I'd like ot make sure the WG is ready for the profiles >>>>> discussion. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Kathleen >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Hannes Tschofenig >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> I agree with Kepeng that we also wanted to discuss the certificate >>>>>> enrollment in addition to the Wiki. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 09/27/2017 05:23 PM, Kathleen Moriarty wrote: >>>>>>> Hello Kepeng, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The interim should also be to discuss the profiles as that was a >>>>>>> priority from the WG session in Prague. Goran pulled together the >>>>>>> wiki, now it's up to the WG participants to check the wiki and amend >>>>>>> as needed to allow for a productive session. Or did you plan on two >>>>>>> interims? Timing is tight for that though. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> Kathleen >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 9:44 PM, Kepeng Li >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> According to our IETF 99 meeting minutes, we will hold an interim >>>>>>>> meeting on >>>>>>>> certificate enrolment in constrained environments. >>>>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/99/materials/minutes-99-ace/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We proposed three options for the meeting time: >>>>>>>> 1. 17th Oct, Tuesday, GMT 13:00 ~ 14:00. >>>>>>>> 2. 18th Oct, Wednesday, GMT 13:00 ~ 14:00. >>>>>>>> 3. 19th Oct, Thursday, GMT 13:00 ~ 14:00. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please indicate your available time from the doodle poll: >>>>>>>> https://doodle.com/poll/ig3bhr7tfb2xh4u4 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hannes and I will prepare the agenda and send out later. We may add >>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>> topics to the agenda. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kind Regards >>>>>>>> Kepeng & Hannes >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Ace mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ace >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Ace mailing list > [email protected] > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ace _______________________________________________ Ace mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ace
