kiewitz schreef:
>
> No, they are not your property. They are still copyrighted by IBM, but they are
>testcase, so you are free to use
> them.
You are mangling different items, I'll elaborate by an example:
- When I purchase a book, that book is my property, notwithstanding the copyrights and
notwithstanding any trademark
protection.
- When I'm getting something for free, what I get is my property, notwithstanding the
copyrights and notwitstanding
the trademark protection. When I get files for free, the files are my property, and I
can do anything with them
within the limits of the legislation of my country.
There might be some argument at what I'm entitled to do with the files, but
nevertheless the files are my property.
> Please note: not everyone likes to run testcase kernels and most people would
>definitely not want to
> run one.
After a few years of handling them I'm convinced there isn't a bit of difference
between the testcase thingies and
the "real" ones.
> The official fixpaks are not free for download nor does anyone have the right to use
>an UNI-kernel
> from a fixpak archive with his e.g. Warp4 copy.
If you can download a UNI-kernel for free you are entitled to use it as it is your
property.
> Think about some bigger company that is using OS/2 Warp 4
> machines. You can't tell them to "use testcase kernels".
>
"Bigger companies" can pay what they want for what the want to have. Or does Netlabs
have some contract with some
"bigger"companies? :-)
>
> Also I don't even know if it's legal to run a UNI-kernel (even testcase) on a W4
>machine.
Let's not abuse concepts "legal" and illegal". Whether something is legal or not, in
the end it's for the courts to
decide, not M$, nor Big Blue nor any other party at stake.
> Anyway, even if its
> legal, its still testcase. Strangely no disclaimer is shipped with testcase kernels.
>
That's not our problem. Remember the code Napol�on, if you get it for free, within the
limits of law, *it is* your
property. Other than declaring war to there is nothing Mr Bush can do about it.
>
> Those are testcase and no one may put the official releases (from fixpaks!) onto any
>website. If he does, he is
> acting against IBM copyright.
Wrong. IBM copyright is about copyrights. If they give files away without any
restriction, that is their problem.
Remember, I haven't and as far as I know nobody hasn't made any agreement with Big
Blue prior to downloading these
files.
And to repeat myself, I haven't made any agreement with IBM. So I just have to comply
to the laws of my country and
the EC, nothing more, nothing less.
> Also if you use those files, it's considered unsupported
Who cares? Who should care.
> and illegal.
And that's a lie of course. If I got them legally, I can use them legally. It is as
simple as that.
> Not a good
> deal (especially not for companies), even if you get ACPI support that way.
>
Nevertheless a better deal than using M$. :-)
--
Groeten uit Gent,
Kris
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