Probably not - and I agree.  But there are a lot of off-topic issues
that are discussed here, Larry.

If Tony wants to stop it, I'd invite him to do so.  I have no problems
with the list owner killing a conversation.

Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone





> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of 
> Larry A. Duncan
> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 9:18 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Biztalk
> 
> 
> These are all good points, but is this the platform for 
> discussing BizTalk issues?
> 
> Larry A. Duncan, MCSA/MCSE
> Directory Services Engineer/
> Systems Management Consultant
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ph. 615.598.0241
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Rick Kingslan
> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 9:07 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Biztalk
> 
> Point(s) taken.  Thanks for the correction, Roger.  I wasn't 
> aware that EDI was still so 'alive and kicking'.
> 
> Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
> Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of 
> > Roger Seielstad
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 7:22 AM
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Biztalk
> > 
> > 
> > That's a fairly accurate description, although there are some
> > other parts to it.
> > 
> > EDI is alive and well, and actually still a growth market, in
> > large part because of the dot crash companies like Ariba and 
> > CommerceOne who sold a sold a bill of goods that couldn't be 
> > delivered. There are traditional strongholds for EDI, such as 
> > manufacturing, automotive and petrochemical, but healthcare 
> > is still seriously considering it as it provides a lot of 
> > cross platform opportunities. In addition, it is as secure as 
> > you want to make it. We regularly traffic EDI for companies 
> > that require end to end encryption and authentication via EDI.
> > 
> > I completely concur, however, that no solution is
> > z:\setup.exe <next> <next> <next> <finish> when it comes to 
> > HIPAA compliance and the larger picture of EAI or B2B data 
> > management. This is one where rolling your own solution might 
> > be a bit more than you want to bite off.
> > 
> > Roger
> > ------------------------------------------------------
> > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
> > Atlanta, GA
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rick Kingslan [mailto:rkingsla@;cox.net]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 6:31 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Biztalk
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hahaha!  Boy, are you in for a REAL shock!  Justin, 
> you're poised on 
> > > one really TALL cliff!
> > > 
> > > Cool technology, but one does not just drop in the CD, click a few
> > > buttons, connect A to B, then begin the transactions.
> > > 
> > > Given your tagline, I suspect they are wanting to look at
> > it for the
> > > HIPAA module(s) that MS offers to do transactions in lieu of EDI -
> > > which isn't as ubiquitous (or nearly as secure) as the 
> > > medical/insurance industry needs it to be.
> > > 
> > > At a 50,000 foot level, BizTalk is Microsoft's server for creating
> > > business logic and rules in XML, and allowing it to 
> > communicate across
> > > the common communication verbs that is XML, SOAP, etc.
> > > 
> > > With all due respect, Justin - (there may be one here, I 
> don't know) 
> > > you need to find an expert on BizTalk and the medical industry.
> > > This one's
> > > a REAL toughy!  I'd run away very fast if at all possible.
> > > 
> > > Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
> > > Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
> > > Associate Expert
> > > Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of
> > > > Salandra, Justin A.
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 3:08 PM
> > > > To: ActiveDir (E-mail)
> > > > Subject: [ActiveDir] Biztalk
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > What is Biztalk used for?  My CIO asked me to look at it and I 
> > > > have never used it before.  Does anyone use it out there?
> > > > If so what do you do with it?
> > > > 
> > > > Justin A. Salandra, MCSE
> > > > Senior Network Engineer
> > > > Catholic Healthcare System
> > > > 914.681.8117 office
> > > > 646.483.3325 cell
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:jasalandra@;chcsnet.org>
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