Roger,

Do you - Or anyone reading this have any good documentation on the empty
root concept? 

Joe Pelle
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-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 9:00 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Back to Basics - Design Pros and Cons

You're really looking at what I'd call a consulting question - there are too
many factors to be able to give this any sort of justice via an email forum.
That being said, here are some thoughts.

Start with defining the levels of separation and security between your
different classes of users, as well as determining what (if any) resources
are expected to be available, and which classes of users need access to them
(ie computer labs, etc).

Define the administration policies for the different classes of users - are
the student accounts managed by different people than staff, etc? 

Unless you have very serious issues with the trustworthiness (or they're
just plain unruly) of the administrators for student accounts, I don't see a
lot of reason to create a multiple forest design, especially if there are
many resources that have to be shared between the students and faculty. The
design will flow from how well you define your user classes. The better you
understand the requirements for interaction and administration, the easier
it will be to develop a design that will suit your institution.

After all that, my first idea would be a 3 domain forest - empty root,
faculty domain and student domain.

Multiple forests are possible, and in some cases preferable, but they are a
significant overhead, IMO.

Roger
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Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wohlgehagen, Max W 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 8:20 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: [ActiveDir] Back to Basics - Design Pros and Cons
> 
> 
> There is so much material out there on AD now it is almost 
> scary [in many ways it is not too dissimilar to NDS 'cepting 
> the DNS component] My problem is design for a new network, 
> being in a school we have the luxury of starting from scratch 
> without business fallout problems. We are multi-campus and 
> have a fairly substantial network with an 11MB "Spread 
> Spectrum" Microwave link between campuses. I am a big fan of 
> the KISS principle but am stuck in deciding between multiple 
> trees or a single tree with many sites, both concepts have 
> advantages. We do not need to implement a Forrest structure 
> as our DNS is set in concrete. We have the following 
> elements: Campus1, Campus2, Students1, Students2, Staff1, 
> Staff2 ... or OrganisationAll, StaffAll, StudentsAll. 
> Obviously there are sub components of these elements as well. 
> The main concern is to have the most useful GPO structure 
> without too much complexity. Does anyone have any experience 
> in setting up this type of AD. Any ideas on multiple domains 
> versus single domain many sites?? Help, opinions, comments, 
> ideas all welcome. Thanks.
> 
> Max Wohlgehagen 
> TSI - Rowville 
> "Of all the things I've lost, it's my mind I miss the most." 
> <<Wohlgehagen, Max (E-mail).vcf>> 
> 
> 
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