I also agree with those people here that say to have a 3 domain model in a
single forest.  By creating an empty root and having two child domains, you
can ensure security and separation from faculty and students as well has
have a very detailed OU Structure in your students domains based on year or
majors and your faculty can have an OU structure of department.

For the empty root, I would put in the root those services and servers that
both students and faculty members need, such as a e-mail server and web
server.  File servers and application servers I would put in the child
domains that are relative to each domains. (ie FACULTYFP01 and FACULTYAPP01
in the Faculty domains and STUDENTFP01 and STUDENTAPP01 in the student
domain.  

Just the path I would head down.

Justin A. Salandra, MCSE
Senior Network Engineer
Catholic Healthcare System
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 -----Original Message-----
From:   Craig Cerino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Wednesday, December 11, 2002 9:10 AM
To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:        RE: [ActiveDir] Back to Basics - Design Pros and Cons

Max, 

        While I think there are a LOT of issues that should be addressed
(probably too many for you top get enough quality feedback through an
email forum) there are a few basic things I would recommend considering.

1. Who needs to do what or get where (appliance wise)
2. What needs to be accessible to these people (as a whole)
3. Who needs to be able to access what?

Again, these are just "tip of the Iceberg things" but that is where I'd
start. I'm guessing by what you said and the mere fact that it is a
multi campus university, that you have a healthy reliable backbone in
place already.

While multiple FORRESTS are doable (some people may even lead you down
that path - your decision) I always consider them to have a TON over
administrative and maintenance related overhead. (Not sure how large
your team is that will support this architecture) 

If it were me (because I never tell someone "THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOULD
DO") I would forget about the domain for each campus etc. I would stick
with two domains FACULTY and STUDENTS (naming convention to be decided
later) and move on from there.

Just my 2 cents Max.

Good luck with this project - sounds exciting to me. 

Craig  


Craig P. Cerino
MCSE, MCP+I
Systems Administrator
TIE SOLUTIONS, Inc




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wohlgehagen, Max W 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 8:20 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: [ActiveDir] Back to Basics - Design Pros and Cons
> 
> 
> There is so much material out there on AD now it is almost 
> scary [in many ways it is not too dissimilar to NDS 'cepting 
> the DNS component] My problem is design for a new network, 
> being in a school we have the luxury of starting from scratch 
> without business fallout problems. We are multi-campus and 
> have a fairly substantial network with an 11MB "Spread 
> Spectrum" Microwave link between campuses. I am a big fan of 
> the KISS principle but am stuck in deciding between multiple 
> trees or a single tree with many sites, both concepts have 
> advantages. We do not need to implement a Forrest structure 
> as our DNS is set in concrete. We have the following 
> elements: Campus1, Campus2, Students1, Students2, Staff1, 
> Staff2 ... or OrganisationAll, StaffAll, StudentsAll. 
> Obviously there are sub components of these elements as well. 
> The main concern is to have the most useful GPO structure 
> without too much complexity. Does anyone have any experience 
> in setting up this type of AD. Any ideas on multiple domains 
> versus single domain many sites?? Help, opinions, comments, 
> ideas all welcome. Thanks.
> 
> Max Wohlgehagen 
> TSI - Rowville 
> "Of all the things I've lost, it's my mind I miss the most." 
> <<Wohlgehagen, Max (E-mail).vcf>> 
> 
> 
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