Actually - the empty root should be just that - empty. The transitive trust
model handles the rest.

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Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 9:24 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Back to Basics - Design Pros and Cons
> 
> 
> I also agree with those people here that say to have a 3 
> domain model in a
> single forest.  By creating an empty root and having two 
> child domains, you
> can ensure security and separation from faculty and students 
> as well has
> have a very detailed OU Structure in your students domains 
> based on year or
> majors and your faculty can have an OU structure of department.
> 
> For the empty root, I would put in the root those services 
> and servers that
> both students and faculty members need, such as a e-mail 
> server and web
> server.  File servers and application servers I would put in the child
> domains that are relative to each domains. (ie FACULTYFP01 
> and FACULTYAPP01
> in the Faculty domains and STUDENTFP01 and STUDENTAPP01 in the student
> domain.  
> 
> Just the path I would head down.
> 
> Justin A. Salandra, MCSE
> Senior Network Engineer
> Catholic Healthcare System
> 914.681.8117 office
> 646.483.3325 cell
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
> From:         Craig Cerino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 9:10 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      RE: [ActiveDir] Back to Basics - Design Pros and Cons
> 
> Max, 
> 
>       While I think there are a LOT of issues that should be addressed
> (probably too many for you top get enough quality feedback through an
> email forum) there are a few basic things I would recommend 
> considering.
> 
> 1. Who needs to do what or get where (appliance wise)
> 2. What needs to be accessible to these people (as a whole)
> 3. Who needs to be able to access what?
> 
> Again, these are just "tip of the Iceberg things" but that is 
> where I'd
> start. I'm guessing by what you said and the mere fact that it is a
> multi campus university, that you have a healthy reliable backbone in
> place already.
> 
> While multiple FORRESTS are doable (some people may even lead you down
> that path - your decision) I always consider them to have a TON over
> administrative and maintenance related overhead. (Not sure how large
> your team is that will support this architecture) 
> 
> If it were me (because I never tell someone "THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOULD
> DO") I would forget about the domain for each campus etc. I 
> would stick
> with two domains FACULTY and STUDENTS (naming convention to be decided
> later) and move on from there.
> 
> Just my 2 cents Max.
> 
> Good luck with this project - sounds exciting to me. 
> 
> Craig  
> 
> 
> Craig P. Cerino
> MCSE, MCP+I
> Systems Administrator
> TIE SOLUTIONS, Inc
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Wohlgehagen, Max W 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 8:20 PM
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: [ActiveDir] Back to Basics - Design Pros and Cons
> > 
> > 
> > There is so much material out there on AD now it is almost 
> > scary [in many ways it is not too dissimilar to NDS 'cepting 
> > the DNS component] My problem is design for a new network, 
> > being in a school we have the luxury of starting from scratch 
> > without business fallout problems. We are multi-campus and 
> > have a fairly substantial network with an 11MB "Spread 
> > Spectrum" Microwave link between campuses. I am a big fan of 
> > the KISS principle but am stuck in deciding between multiple 
> > trees or a single tree with many sites, both concepts have 
> > advantages. We do not need to implement a Forrest structure 
> > as our DNS is set in concrete. We have the following 
> > elements: Campus1, Campus2, Students1, Students2, Staff1, 
> > Staff2 ... or OrganisationAll, StaffAll, StudentsAll. 
> > Obviously there are sub components of these elements as well. 
> > The main concern is to have the most useful GPO structure 
> > without too much complexity. Does anyone have any experience 
> > in setting up this type of AD. Any ideas on multiple domains 
> > versus single domain many sites?? Help, opinions, comments, 
> > ideas all welcome. Thanks.
> > 
> > Max Wohlgehagen 
> > TSI - Rowville 
> > "Of all the things I've lost, it's my mind I miss the most." 
> > <<Wohlgehagen, Max (E-mail).vcf>> 
> > 
> > 
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