That brings up a great point - universities are very different environments
from corporate environs.

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Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Carerros [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 9:57 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Back to Basics - Design Pros and Cons
> 
> 
> I agree with Craig, however I would still stick with one 
> domain and use
> the OU structure to the max.  Maybe creating an OU for each campus and
> then dividing them down by departments or students and staff 
> or whatever
> you find to work best.
> 
> That is what I have found to work best because then you can have the
> departments do their own administration at their level.  And 
> one of the
> most difficult things that I have found on my campus is the 
> politics and
> this kind of concept helps.
> 
> But do what you must,
> 
> chuck
> 
> Thank you,
>  
> Charles Carerros
> IS Network Specialist
> Center for International Education
> University of Wisconsin -- Milwaukee
> Garland Hall RM 117
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Craig Cerino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 8:10 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Back to Basics - Design Pros and Cons
> 
> 
> Max, 
> 
>       While I think there are a LOT of issues that should be addressed
> (probably too many for you top get enough quality feedback through an
> email forum) there are a few basic things I would recommend 
> considering.
> 
> 1. Who needs to do what or get where (appliance wise)
> 2. What needs to be accessible to these people (as a whole)
> 3. Who needs to be able to access what?
> 
> Again, these are just "tip of the Iceberg things" but that is 
> where I'd
> start. I'm guessing by what you said and the mere fact that it is a
> multi campus university, that you have a healthy reliable backbone in
> place already.
> 
> While multiple FORRESTS are doable (some people may even lead you down
> that path - your decision) I always consider them to have a TON over
> administrative and maintenance related overhead. (Not sure how large
> your team is that will support this architecture) 
> 
> If it were me (because I never tell someone "THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOULD
> DO") I would forget about the domain for each campus etc. I 
> would stick
> with two domains FACULTY and STUDENTS (naming convention to be decided
> later) and move on from there.
> 
> Just my 2 cents Max.
> 
> Good luck with this project - sounds exciting to me. 
> 
> Craig  
> 
> 
> Craig P. Cerino
> MCSE, MCP+I
> Systems Administrator
> TIE SOLUTIONS, Inc
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Wohlgehagen, Max W
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 8:20 PM
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: [ActiveDir] Back to Basics - Design Pros and Cons
> > 
> > 
> > There is so much material out there on AD now it is almost
> > scary [in many ways it is not too dissimilar to NDS 'cepting 
> > the DNS component] My problem is design for a new network, 
> > being in a school we have the luxury of starting from scratch 
> > without business fallout problems. We are multi-campus and 
> > have a fairly substantial network with an 11MB "Spread 
> > Spectrum" Microwave link between campuses. I am a big fan of 
> > the KISS principle but am stuck in deciding between multiple 
> > trees or a single tree with many sites, both concepts have 
> > advantages. We do not need to implement a Forrest structure 
> > as our DNS is set in concrete. We have the following 
> > elements: Campus1, Campus2, Students1, Students2, Staff1, 
> > Staff2 ... or OrganisationAll, StaffAll, StudentsAll. 
> > Obviously there are sub components of these elements as well. 
> > The main concern is to have the most useful GPO structure 
> > without too much complexity. Does anyone have any experience 
> > in setting up this type of AD. Any ideas on multiple domains 
> > versus single domain many sites?? Help, opinions, comments, 
> > ideas all welcome. Thanks.
> > 
> > Max Wohlgehagen
> > TSI - Rowville 
> > "Of all the things I've lost, it's my mind I miss the most." 
> > <<Wohlgehagen, Max (E-mail).vcf>> 
> > 
> > 
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