If you are going to have one domain and one domain up until eternity and you
don't see your company growing much more then what it is right now then I
would go for single domain/forest.

If not, then it's best to prepare for expansion by creating empty root.

Security is not the main reason for the empty root.
Remember you can be the administrator in the root and it does not
necessarily mean you have access to everything (schema master etc). You can
place ACL's on objects in AD.

In large enterprises owners of the root domain have the responsibility for
the entire forest(forest wide replication, schema, etc).
It is possible that you will possibly decide in the future, as you install
multiple domains, to separate domain responsibly from forest wide functions
(for political reasons, etc). 
   

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 February 2003 16:35 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Empty root domain benefits?


I'd have to disagree on two of your four points.

-Enhanced Security: it is indeed more secure to keep the schema and
enterprise admins group in a different domain. The cross-domain security
hole is relatively difficult to exploit, and does require physical (or at
least interactive) access to a global catalog server.

-Longer names: There is no requirement for multiple domain forests to exist
in contiguous namespace. In fact, there is no need for them to be related
namespaces at all. In fact, it is possible to set the root domain to be
root.domain.com and have the production domain named domain.com. The only
requisite here is that you have a sufficient knowledge of DNS such that you
can manage the DNS namespace.


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Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gil Kirkpatrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 9:15 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Empty root domain benefits?
> 
> 
> Hi Cliff,
> 
> There are two pros that I am aware of...
> 
> 1. In the case of radical naming hierarchy surgery, e.g., 
> acquisition of
> another company, it provides a convenient place to merge in 
> the new domains.
> 
> 2. "Enhanced security" for the Enterprise Admins and Schema 
> Admins groups is
> often claimed, but in practice an empty root buys you little 
> with respect to
> security.
> 
> Cons:
> 
> 1. Its not a single domain forest, which is the best of all 
> possible worlds
> when you can do it.
> 
> 2. It makes names longer than the need to; a minor annoyance.
> 
> Unless you have some overriding reason for multiple domains 
> (multiple sites
> and slow WAN links can be an issue), I would stick with a 
> single domain
> forest. It makes life much simpler.
> 
> -gil
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Clifford Airhart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 6:01 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [ActiveDir] Empty root domain benefits?
> 
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
>       The simplest domain model is the Single Forest / Single 
> Domain. I
> was thinking of using this model with an "empty" root domain? 
> Does anyone
> have any experience with "empty" root domain? Is it really 
> beneficial? We
> are only a small company with a few hundred users and have 4 
> domains in a
> multimaster NT domain model.
> 
> What are the pros and cons?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Cliff Airhart 
> Answer Financial Inc. 
> Senior Systems Administrator - Server Support / eBusiness
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