Bob,

Yes, you're correct.  I'm working with SMS 2003 right now as well, and
IMHO, it still exhibits a lot of the nagging issues that I've always had
with SMS.  But, it does introduce some nice features, like drizzle
through BITS (it doesn't take up the entire 100MB pipe and server with
it), check and restart....  There are some nice things.  But, the
overall slowness (or, my lack of patience - you decide) is still a bit
painful.

I've gone to a third party because even though I *REALLY* like what I
see in SUS 2.0, I can't wait.  The biggest hole I have in my security
(short of the loose nuts behind the keyboard) is that patch management
is so painful that I can't even describe it.  I'm thinking we're going
to need support groups.

Now, the 3rd part that I went with (and we can take this part off-line)
does not have everything that I want.  But, then, the only way I was
GOING to get everything that I wanted was to write my own.

I don't have that kind of time.....  The problem is a very 'yesterday'
thing.  But, it's biting me in the butt today.

Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone



>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Free, Bob
> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 10:28 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Yes, Software Assurance. We were in the SUS-SA beta program 
> but 2.0 never really came up in detail, just some vague 
> predictions in response to comments about the beta. 
> 
> Note to self- Nag TAM about 2.0 :-]
> 
> SA looks & feels like the exact same product as the standard 
> version, just expands the products covered. If you don't 
> already have SA on all the products....no joy. Kind of whets 
> the appetitite and makes you reconsider SMS2003 and the other 
> commercial alternatives
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick Kingslan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 8:01 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SUS?
> 
> 
> It might be more precise to say SUS 2.0.  What is SUS-SA?  Software
> Assurance???   SUS 2.0 I have seen in it's development bits, 
> and it is a
> huge step forward for the tool to do real patch management.
> 
> Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
> Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> 
> 
> 
> >  
> >  
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Free, Bob
> > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 7:01 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > Are you talking SUS-SA?
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rick Kingslan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 4:56 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SUS?
> > 
> > 
> > John,
> > 
> > I can't tell you anything more other than the next version should 
> > greatly please and satisfy.  Look for it Q4.
> > 
> > Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
> > Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
> > Associate Expert
> > Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >  
> > >  
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
> John Balos
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 5:28 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > 
> > > I am currently using it and I like it. I think I would much
> > rather use
> > > something like sms though only because it's capable of
> > doing so much
> > > more.
> > > 
> > > Just my two cents......
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Weston Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 11:30 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [ActiveDir] SUS?
> > > 
> > > Has anyone deployed (or like using) SUS? (Software Update
> > > Services) within AD?  Just curious to see what others think about 
> > > this..
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > 
> > > Wes
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