HAHAHA.

Yep. I like the inherited/explicit method, just wish there were A LOT
fewer explicit ACE's by default. Maybe MS could produce a Secure AD pack
which goes back through and locks AD all down with instructions on how
to open it back up with inherited ACE's for various things. It tightens
down the schema default SD's and cleans up the entire AD and its current
perms. Also it adds a new object called ServerComputer and allows
different delegation for them than workstations which maintain the old
Computer object class. 

I don't really see anyone outside of MS doing this because of the fear
of non-support and the lack of documentation for what a lot of the AD
properties even do.




-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:04 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Installation Priviledges only on a DC


Yep - and that's what I concluded after seeing your last message and
going in and taking a look (Imagine - me actually LOOKING!)

Seems to be an odd contradiction, though.  We're going to allow you to
delegate permissions so that you can better manage your environment.
Oh, but except here, and here, and here, and (ad infinitum), oh !  And
then there's Exchange.  You thought the OS was really screwed?  Hehe -
you ain't seen nuthin' yet!

>;-)

Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
  

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Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 6:32 PM
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LOL. You kill me Rick...

I haven't heard of anyone yet who has "cracked" the internal AD DIT
format. Not sure how feasible it even is. However the flaw in this that
the inherited perms don't override the explicit's so it isn't even worth
going to this level of protection with the DIT because the front door is
still wide open.


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Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 10:31 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Installation Priviledges only on a DC


Then, given the end goal, (thinking here...might be a flaw) why not deny
that same group permissions to the %SystemRoot%\NTDS directory?  If the
issue is AD and then mucking with the AD files themselves on the DC,
just deny them.  Unless I'm mistaken (and given that I've just gotten
up... It's
possible) the deny should override other permissions.

(Now, Joe - what am I missing...?? ;0)  )

Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
 

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