Oh! My experimentation (and I haven't done this yet in production, but I do intend to) indicates that the host OS does not do very much. The client OS does pretty much all the work. So, my plan is just to build a server with an extra GB of memory for the host OS.
-----Original Message----- From: Mulnick, Al [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 2:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Bare metal restore on other hardware? No, I just meant accessing it with the thinking that it is not as beefy a system as a standalone DC without /VM. I keep forgetting that there is a server version of VM :) -----Original Message----- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 1:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Bare metal restore on other hardware? I don't understand what you mean "keep users from accessing that VM version".... The server itself still has (hopefully) physical controls. The HOST OS that runs the VM controls the access to the VM. Logically or network-wise, standard controls/security applies... -----Original Message----- From: Mulnick, Al [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 1:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Bare metal restore on other hardware? Right. With the exception of some of the drivers this should work well. However, in using disimmilar hardware, I was thinking this should be able to put back to a single proc machine. Any thoughts around that? I've also just skipped the step of tape and just pulled the file from a DC and put it to an accessible disk or other transportable media purely for speed reasons. If you have any information about restoring, in a supportable/recommended configuration, to dissimilar hardware (e.g. hardware that has different drivers and different proc configuration) I'd appreciate a note offline. The virtual server is an interesting idea. How'd you keep users from accessing that VM version beyond doubt? Or do you just expect that they'll be able to and deal with it? Al -----Original Message----- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 11:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Bare metal restore on other hardware? Ntbackup can restore to different hardware, as long as the HAL and the boot/system disk letters are the same. Even if you are using backup software other than NTBackup, schedule NTBackup to create a nightly backup to a file on your DC. Use your tape backup software to back this file up to tape. To restore to dissimilar hardware: 1. Install base OS 2. Install your tape backup software 3. Restore the NTBackup file from tape 4. Restore system from NTBackup file 5. Fix boot.ini (if the partition scheme doesn't match the original). -----Original Message----- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 9:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Bare metal restore on other hardware? It occurs to me that what might be workable, at the cost of an additional OS license, would be to run the actual DC in a virtual machine on top of a member server. Restoring the VM to dissimilar hardware is trivial. -----Original Message----- From: Mulnick, Al [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 9:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Bare metal restore on other hardware? Absolutely. But how does that help me with domain controller restore? I don't have a problem with the installation of the operating system, it's the restore to unlike hardware that's a problem once I put back the domain controller information. I could use IFM but that expects that I have an existing DC to replicate with which I may not. I could use ASR, but I still need like hardware (same number of processors, some of the lower drivers the same etc.) which is not completely what I'd consider 'other' hardware. ADS is nice for deployment of a large amount of servers. Sadly, it doesn't yet support workstations which really puts a damper into the idea of consolidation. Great for an ASP that wants a framework, but not so much for a corporate enterprise that's trying to reduce the amount of servers. Al -----Original Message----- From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 5:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Bare metal restore on other hardware? Have you thought about looking into using ADS? http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/technologies/management/ads/d efau lt.mspx -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 5:21 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Bare metal restore on other hardware? Identical hardware then? -----Original Message----- From: Chris Flesher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 4:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Bare metal restore on other hardware? The machine was a member server with the TSM client installed. Ran a restore and rebooted, brought back registry, and backup made it a DC with info at time of backup. It replicated and was good. > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 10:32 AM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Bare metal restore on other hardware? > > > What'd you restore? Were there other DC's available to replicate to? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Flesher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 11:25 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Bare metal restore on other hardware? > > We managed to do a restore of AD to other Hardware. However, what we > did is re-install the OS, put the backup client on there, and do a > restore. Tivoli's TSM product worked pretty well in this regard. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Orin Rehorst > > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 10:15 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [ActiveDir] Bare metal restore on other hardware? > > > > I'm charged with planning for disaster recovery. 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