And if you mention Linux, you can go a little further and get your own
rescue CD with a nice set of tools for imaging and basic disaster
recovery:
http://www.t4k.org/~ebcd/
Can image even over the network. 

Guy

On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 22:16, Ken Cornetet wrote:
> If you feel comfortable with Linux, you could build a bootable floppy or
> CDROM with firewire support. Then, backing up your internal disk to the
> firewire disk is as simple as "dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb" (assuming
> internal disk is hda and firewire is hdb).
> 
> The disadvantage of this is that you have to do the backup "offline",
> but of course DriveImage and the like require that too.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jake Connor
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 2:23 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Backups
> 
> 
> No they are too cheap to buy a few hard drives and a raid card :-\
> 
> I'll look into Ghost and pcInspector. Do you know if Drive Image by 
> Symantec will work on Win2k server or just workstations?
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 14, 2004, at 11:09 AM, Mark Nold wrote:
> 
> > They would spring for Ghost or pcInspector or the like, but not 80
> > bucks
> > for a 120G IDE drive that you could slap in there to mirror?
> >
> > Do you have any "dead" pc's lying around that you can grab the IDE
> > drive
> > from?  Not the best I know, but seems like it would be better than
> > re-imaging your drive after every change you made in AD to keep your
> > "backup" fresh.
> >
> > My 2cents anyway....
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jake Connor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 11:03 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Backups
> >
> > Because it's a small company and I have recommended it a hundred times
> 
> > but in a nutshell, they are too cheap even though we have experienced 
> > a server crash which took about almost a week to restore everything 
> > (which costs more for paying me) and they don't realize a RAID will 
> > solve about almost everything and cheaper.
> >
> >
> > On Jan 14, 2004, at 10:25 AM, Coleman, Hunter wrote:
> >
> >> If you're concerned about the hard drive failing, why not just set up
> > a
> >> RAID1 (mirror) configuration? Cost would be low, and you won't have 
> >> to
> >
> >> worry
> >> about creating disk images and swapping hard drives around.
> >>
> >> Hunter
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Jake Connor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 11:00 AM
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Backups
> >>
> >> First of all, thank you for the information :-)
> >>
> >> I would like to make a complete hard drive backup onto the firewire 
> >> drive (like a complete image) so that if the one on my system crashed
> 
> >> then I
> >
> >> can
> >> just get the hard drive on the fire wire cable and put it into the 
> >> IDE ribbons.
> >>
> >> I probably should have mentioned that what I am using is just a fire 
> >> wire cable that lets you connect any type of IDE drive to it.
> >>
> >> So with pcinspector, would it be able to make a complete copy of the 
> >> hard drive (with all the partitions, bootup stuff, etc) to another 
> >> hard drive and
> >> have that hard drive be exactly the same as the hard drive in the
> >> system so
> >> in the event of a crash I can just swap the hard drive, start up the
> >> system,
> >> and everything is back to normal with all my Active Directory users,
> >> etc?
> >>
> >> Thanks once again in advanced.
> >>
> >> Jake
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jan 14, 2004, at 4:25 AM, GRILLENMEIER,GUIDO (HP-Germany,ex1)
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> using a FW drive, you may run into issues with available drivers to 
> >>> allow you to copy the data without first re-installing an OS on the 
> >>> box. There
> >>> are some cool free-utilities (such as a disk-cloner) that you may
> > want
> >>> to look at - but I have no idea if they support drives connected via
> >>> FW:
> >>> http://www.pcinspector.de/file_recovery/uk/welcome.htm
> >>>
> >>> so in worst case, you'd have to restore the OS onto the new 
> >>> harddrive (default install - incl. the FW driver, if this is not in 
> >>> the
> > default)
> >>> and then restore your backup afterwards onto this new drive.
> >>>
> >>> Otherwise you may preferr using a backup on tape afterall, for which
> 
> >>> you can get routines to completely restore a server from bare-metal 
> >>> fully automated.
> >>>
> >>> /Guido
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jake Connor
> >>> Sent: Mittwoch, 14. Januar 2004 00:04
> >>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> Subject: [ActiveDir] Backups
> >>>
> >>> I have a schedule backup that just copies everything on my hard 
> >>> drive to a drive on my firewire drive.
> >>>
> >>> If my active hard drive crashes, how do I restore it with the data 
> >>> on my firewire drive so I can just boot up the new hard drive and it
> > will
> >>> have all the active directory users and all that stuff?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
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