Guido, In my experience using software raid has many limitations as opposed to the use of hardware raid.
For instance hot standby of faulty disks this can't be done without losing the production system for that configuration change. Possibly you could get away at small companies as there reliance on the production system is not high. Yusuf -----Original Message----- From: GRILLENMEIER,GUIDO (HP-Germany,ex1) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 January, 2004 23:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Backups I wondered that in this whole discussion about how to protect yourself from a harddrive-failure the cheapest way - why don't you just use the built-in SW-Raid features of your Windows Server? Naturally, I'm not really a big fan of this SW-Raid and have truly never used them myself (now why would that be?), but with such a low budged you can't really be too choosy... This would give you all the benefits of an automated failover, obviously at the cost of some CPU of the server - which could well be unnoticible for you. It's at least something to look into. However, I'd be interested to hear, if others have already used the Windows SW-Raid features and how their experience is with these...?? Is it ok for the really small companies with NO budged (but a second disk), or would you keep your fingers off? /Guido -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jake Connor Sent: Mittwoch, 14. Januar 2004 20:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Backups No they are too cheap to buy a few hard drives and a raid card :-\ I'll look into Ghost and pcInspector. Do you know if Drive Image by Symantec will work on Win2k server or just workstations? On Jan 14, 2004, at 11:09 AM, Mark Nold wrote: > They would spring for Ghost or pcInspector or the like, but not 80 > bucks > for a 120G IDE drive that you could slap in there to mirror? > > Do you have any "dead" pc's lying around that you can grab the IDE > drive > from? Not the best I know, but seems like it would be better than > re-imaging your drive after every change you made in AD to keep your > "backup" fresh. > > My 2cents anyway.... > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jake Connor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 11:03 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Backups > > Because it's a small company and I have recommended it a hundred times > but in a nutshell, they are too cheap even though we have experienced a > server crash which took about almost a week to restore everything > (which costs more for paying me) and they don't realize a RAID will > solve about almost everything and cheaper. > > > On Jan 14, 2004, at 10:25 AM, Coleman, Hunter wrote: > >> If you're concerned about the hard drive failing, why not just set up > a >> RAID1 (mirror) configuration? Cost would be low, and you won't have to > >> worry >> about creating disk images and swapping hard drives around. >> >> Hunter >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jake Connor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 11:00 AM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Backups >> >> First of all, thank you for the information :-) >> >> I would like to make a complete hard drive backup onto the firewire >> drive >> (like a complete image) so that if the one on my system crashed then I > >> can >> just get the hard drive on the fire wire cable and put it into the IDE >> ribbons. >> >> I probably should have mentioned that what I am using is just a fire >> wire >> cable that lets you connect any type of IDE drive to it. >> >> So with pcinspector, would it be able to make a complete copy of the >> hard >> drive (with all the partitions, bootup stuff, etc) to another hard >> drive and >> have that hard drive be exactly the same as the hard drive in the >> system so >> in the event of a crash I can just swap the hard drive, start up the >> system, >> and everything is back to normal with all my Active Directory users, >> etc? >> >> Thanks once again in advanced. >> >> Jake >> >> >> >> On Jan 14, 2004, at 4:25 AM, GRILLENMEIER,GUIDO (HP-Germany,ex1) > wrote: >> >>> using a FW drive, you may run into issues with available drivers to >>> allow you to copy the data without first re-installing an OS on the >>> box. >>> There >>> are some cool free-utilities (such as a disk-cloner) that you may > want >>> to look at - but I have no idea if they support drives connected via >>> FW: >>> http://www.pcinspector.de/file_recovery/uk/welcome.htm >>> >>> so in worst case, you'd have to restore the OS onto the new harddrive >>> (default install - incl. the FW driver, if this is not in the > default) >>> and then restore your backup afterwards onto this new drive. >>> >>> Otherwise you may preferr using a backup on tape afterall, for which >>> you can get routines to completely restore a server from bare-metal >>> fully automated. >>> >>> /Guido >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jake Connor >>> Sent: Mittwoch, 14. Januar 2004 00:04 >>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Subject: [ActiveDir] Backups >>> >>> I have a schedule backup that just copies everything on my hard drive >>> to a drive on my firewire drive. >>> >>> If my active hard drive crashes, how do I restore it with the data on >>> my firewire drive so I can just boot up the new hard drive and it > will >>> have all the active directory users and all that stuff? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm >>> List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm >>> List archive: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ >>> List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm >>> List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm >>> List archive: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ >>> >> >> List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm >> List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm >> List archive: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ >> List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm >> List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm >> List archive: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ >> > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm > List archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ > List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm > List archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ > List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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