I wondered that in this whole discussion about how to protect yourself from
a harddrive-failure the cheapest way - why don't you just use the built-in
SW-Raid features of your Windows Server?  Naturally, I'm not really a big
fan of this SW-Raid and have truly never used them myself (now why would
that be?), but with such a low budged you can't really be too choosy...

This would give you all the benefits of an automated failover, obviously at
the cost of some CPU of the server - which could well be unnoticible for
you.  It's at least something to look into.  

However, I'd be interested to hear, if others have already used the Windows
SW-Raid features and how their experience is with these...??  Is it ok for
the really small companies with NO budged (but a second disk), or would you
keep your fingers off?

/Guido

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jake Connor
Sent: Mittwoch, 14. Januar 2004 20:23
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Backups

No they are too cheap to buy a few hard drives and a raid card :-\

I'll look into Ghost and pcInspector. Do you know if Drive Image by 
Symantec will work on Win2k server or just workstations?



On Jan 14, 2004, at 11:09 AM, Mark Nold wrote:

> They would spring for Ghost or pcInspector or the like, but not 80 
> bucks
> for a 120G IDE drive that you could slap in there to mirror?
>
> Do you have any "dead" pc's lying around that you can grab the IDE 
> drive
> from?  Not the best I know, but seems like it would be better than
> re-imaging your drive after every change you made in AD to keep your
> "backup" fresh.
>
> My 2cents anyway....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jake Connor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 11:03 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Backups
>
> Because it's a small company and I have recommended it a hundred times
> but in a nutshell, they are too cheap even though we have experienced a
> server crash which took about almost a week to restore everything
> (which costs more for paying me) and they don't realize a RAID will
> solve about almost everything and cheaper.
>
>
> On Jan 14, 2004, at 10:25 AM, Coleman, Hunter wrote:
>
>> If you're concerned about the hard drive failing, why not just set up
> a
>> RAID1 (mirror) configuration? Cost would be low, and you won't have to
>
>> worry
>> about creating disk images and swapping hard drives around.
>>
>> Hunter
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jake Connor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 11:00 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Backups
>>
>> First of all, thank you for the information :-)
>>
>> I would like to make a complete hard drive backup onto the firewire
>> drive
>> (like a complete image) so that if the one on my system crashed then I
>
>> can
>> just get the hard drive on the fire wire cable and put it into the IDE
>> ribbons.
>>
>> I probably should have mentioned that what I am using is just a fire
>> wire
>> cable that lets you connect any type of IDE drive to it.
>>
>> So with pcinspector, would it be able to make a complete copy of the
>> hard
>> drive (with all the partitions, bootup stuff, etc) to another hard
>> drive and
>> have that hard drive be exactly the same as the hard drive in the
>> system so
>> in the event of a crash I can just swap the hard drive, start up the
>> system,
>> and everything is back to normal with all my Active Directory users,
>> etc?
>>
>> Thanks once again in advanced.
>>
>> Jake
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 14, 2004, at 4:25 AM, GRILLENMEIER,GUIDO (HP-Germany,ex1)
> wrote:
>>
>>> using a FW drive, you may run into issues with available drivers to
>>> allow you to copy the data without first re-installing an OS on the
>>> box.
>>> There
>>> are some cool free-utilities (such as a disk-cloner) that you may
> want
>>> to look at - but I have no idea if they support drives connected via
>>> FW:
>>> http://www.pcinspector.de/file_recovery/uk/welcome.htm
>>>
>>> so in worst case, you'd have to restore the OS onto the new harddrive
>>> (default install - incl. the FW driver, if this is not in the
> default)
>>> and then restore your backup afterwards onto this new drive.
>>>
>>> Otherwise you may preferr using a backup on tape afterall, for which
>>> you can get routines to completely restore a server from bare-metal
>>> fully automated.
>>>
>>> /Guido
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jake Connor
>>> Sent: Mittwoch, 14. Januar 2004 00:04
>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Subject: [ActiveDir] Backups
>>>
>>> I have a schedule backup that just copies everything on my hard drive
>>> to a drive on my firewire drive.
>>>
>>> If my active hard drive crashes, how do I restore it with the data on
>>> my firewire drive so I can just boot up the new hard drive and it
> will
>>> have all the active directory users and all that stuff?
>>>
>>> Thanks
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