I don't image servers. But that's just a personal preference.

You can do the exact same thing without imaging - rebuild from CD (takes me
about 1-2 hours including patching), then dcpromo it.

The only time you should need to go back to a backup is for a DF[1] restore,
so having an image of the box isn't necessary.

Roger
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Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.

[1] Dumb Fsck Restore


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Douglas M. Long [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 4:28 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory
> 
> 
> Doesnt anyone have backup DCs? I may be way off, but it seems 
> as though a
> machine going down shouldnt really affect you that much if 
> you have a backup
> DC. In which case, backup isnt even really that important. 
> Although I do
> backup, I dont get too worried if a backup fails for a night or two. I
> posted this on an earlier post (may have been what this one 
> stemmed from),
> but thought I would post it again, as it IS a good cheap 
> solution that works
> really well. And if you dont know linux, it doesnt matter (it 
> is just a
> linux based floppy), the only commmands you use are ftp commands
> 
> 
> 
> 
> If you want some good free imaging software. Try this out
> http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/ . It is a linux based boot floppy 
> that uploads an
> image or your HD to an FTP server. I use it all the time. It 
> works on any OS
> you can get the boot disk to work on. Just make sure you do follow the
> "Reducing the image size" directions, as it will cut the 
> image size down
> DRAMATICALLY.
> 
> I dont know if you have seen any of them, but there are now a couple
> affordable (around $300) NAS products out there that have a 
> NAT firewall,
> FTP server, etc. built-in. This would be a great compliment 
> to using the
> linux imaging disk, and would be accessable on the network if 
> your server
> totally blows up. Just stick the image disk in, point it to 
> the NAS, which
> is running a FTP sever, and let it restore it for you.
> 
> 
> Backup Process
> 1. Image your server with all patches, programs, and service 
> packs on it.
> 2. Run nightly backup of "data only," with Windows backup utility.
> 3. FTP the backup to your NAS FTP server with a batch
> 4. Done
> 
> Restore Process
> 1. Image machine from NAS FTP server backdown to hardware 
> with linux floppy
> 2. FTP latest "data backup" from NAS FTP server to the server 
> image you just
> restored
> 3. Run "Restore" on the backup file.
> 4. Done
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of 
> Rimmerman, Russ
> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 4:04 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory
> 
> 
> 
> Whew I lucked out.  We have 6700 users and it came to 593MB 
> so it'll fit!
> Now, is there any tricks I should know about restoring this 
> system state
> data?  Just boot into DSRestore and run NTBackup and restore 
> it?  Easy as
> pie?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Roger Seielstad
> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 2:44 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory
> 
> 
> Mine would fit fine - it backs up (not compressed) to just 
> under 300MB.
> 
> Then again, I've got ~500 user objects, and twice that many computer
> objects. And the ADC isn't turned on yet...
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis Inc.
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 3:02 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory
> >
> >
> > I doubt any domain controller's backup would fit on a CDROM.
> > I might fit
> > if you zip or gzip it before burning. Would a USB external 
> drive be an
> > option?
> >
> > Would this work for you?
> >
> > 1. Install OS on your target recovery test server. Keep it as a
> > workgroup server, don't add to domain. Do this build in your current
> > physical location.
> >
> > 2. Do NTBackup of your DC to a share on the target server.
> >
> > 3. Take target test server offsite and do the restore from the file.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > Rimmerman, Russ
> > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 2:33 PM
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory
> >
> >
> >
> > If you're going to do disaster recovery testing and rebuilding your
> > domain off-site and the off-site location doesn't have a compatible
> > tape drive, what's the best way to get your domain rebuilt?  We use
> > BackupExec normally, but in this case I  am guessing you
> > could just use
> > NTBackup and could you back it up to a CD?  Then do your 
> authoritative
> > restore, so you don't have to worry about tapes?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Ken Cornetet
> > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 1:27 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory
> >
> >
> > For a small site (no more than a few servers) NTBackup is plenty
> > adequate. Schedule NTBackup to run nightly and back up to a
> > workstation's hard disk via a share (assuming you have a workstation
> > with a large enough drive[1]).
> >
> > If you want to get fancy, you can write a batch file to drive
> > NTBackup,
> > grep through the log file for errors, and email a report. I
> > can give you
> > an example script if you like.
> >
> > [1] Staples has a 120GB IDE drive for $60 after rebate.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jake Connor
> > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 2:10 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [ActiveDir] Active Directory
> >
> >
> > I need some real good articles that tell me step by step how
> > to backup
> > active directory and RESTORE with software to another drive or
> > something because I almost had a crash right now and company is too
> > cheap to invest in a reliable backup solution or consulting :-\
> >
> > Please help!
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > - Jake
> >
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