On a non-domain controller, depending on how well you follow the "best practice" of AGGGGLP[1], system state can be irrelevant.
-------------------------------------------------------------- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. [1] The nested security model preached in Microsoft curriculum - Accounts are put into Global groups (which can be nested into other Global groups). Global groups are put into Local groups, which are assigned permissions. > -----Original Message----- > From: Jorge de Almeida Pinto > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 9:12 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory > > > I presume your using W2K. > With W2K3, Ntbackup has the possibility to backup open files > using shadow > copies > Also with W2K3 you could use Automated System Recovery > (provides bare metal > restore) > Personnaly I like this because the process of restoring a server to a > certain state is more automated. See it the other way. What > are you going to > do with your data if you are not able to restore the system > it is hosted on > in a fast way. I think it is important to also backup your > system (maybe not > that often as data backups) SYSTEM backups should at least > include System > volumes and the system state > > Jorge > > -----Original Message----- > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 14:40 > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory > > Ahh - time for a philisophical backup discussion. > > I backup data - not systems. Backing up a full system, as you > describe, is a > waste of tape, *unless* you're running a bare metal restore > product (which > Backup Exec has as an option). Even then, I think it's a > waste of money and > tape. Here's why. > > The way the bare metal restores work - at least the one's > I've looked at - > is to build a different version of the OS install media that > includes the > backup agent. At recovery time, you boot from that media, at > which point it > reinstalls the OS then runs the agent, triggering a restore > from the last > backup. > > Any way you cut it, there's an OS reinstall before restore of > any online > system backup (imaging an offline box is the only way to > avoid it, and that > causes downtime). > > NTBackup's main limitations are that it doesn't handle > changers (although > the Removable Storage Manager apparently changes that in > Win2k) and that it > doesn't have the robustness of ancillary features available > in third party > products. Keep in mind that NTBackup is a licensed Veritas product. > > Roger > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP > Sr. Systems Administrator > Inovis Inc. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jake Connor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 5:05 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Active Directory > > > > > > We only have one server that is used for active directory users and > > file sharing. I read that NT Backup was not the best solution for > > backups because it wont even be able to back up files in use. > > > > I want to be able to backup my whole drive (the master boot record, > > all partitions with files) so I can restore the whole server from > > scratch but it will be like nothing happened because all > user accounts > > will still have the same id and stuff. > > > > If NT Backup can do this and all I have to do is install an > operating > > system to restore all the partitions and active directory without > > doing much then i'm in! > > > > If you wouldn't mind sharing a backup script then I'm interested in > > seeing it :-) > > > > > > Thanks Ken! > > > > - Jake > > > > On Jan 23, 2004, at 11:26 AM, Ken Cornetet wrote: > > > > > For a small site (no more than a few servers) NTBackup is plenty > > > adequate. Schedule NTBackup to run nightly and back up to a > > > workstation's hard disk via a share (assuming you have a > workstation > > > with a large enough drive[1]). > > > > > > If you want to get fancy, you can write a batch file to > > drive NTBackup, > > > grep through the log file for errors, and email a report. I > > can give > > > you > > > an example script if you like. > > > > > > [1] Staples has a 120GB IDE drive for $60 after rebate. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Jake Connor > > > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 2:10 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: [ActiveDir] Active Directory > > > > > > > > > I need some real good articles that tell me step by step > > how to backup > > > active directory and RESTORE with software to another drive or > > > something because I almost had a crash right now and > company is too > > > cheap to invest in a reliable backup solution or consulting :-\ > > > > > > Please help! > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > - Jake > > > > > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm > > > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm > > > List archive: > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ > > > > > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm > > > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm > > > List archive: > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ > > > > > > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm > > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm > > List archive: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%> 40mail.activedir.org/ > > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm > List archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%> 40mail.activedir.org/ > > > This e-mail and any attachment is for > authorised use by the intended recipient(s) only. 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