Should be interesting to watch Linux in
the next couple of years… as KDE and Gnome are really starting to
resemble some other OS that slips my mind, and lots of GUI interfaces to
configure things, and well just making it real easy for some of those displaced
less-qualified admins to put Linux on their resume… used to be you could
fake it with Windows but had to know what you were doing with Linux. Even
though NT4 was perhaps too easy to run setup and see what happens and wow
instant datacenter, it certainly did a lot to increase MS’ market
share.
DNS is not hard… once you figure it
out. Remember trying to figure out subnet masks? Once you figure
out TCP/IP and routing, it seems easy. But I remember it being way over
my head once. Ditto DNS, although the wizards help you get in over your
head quickly and not know it until it breaks – that’s when you
learn. Maybe soon MCSE tests will have broken AD or DR scenarios, where
you can even pull up Google to research the answer and you have to fix the
problem. Would that be too close to real life?? Or too much like the CCIE
lab? J
Rich
From: Roger Seielstad
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004
10:19 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS SOA
entered incorrectly during installation
DNS isn't *that* hard to understand.
And I'm on record saying that the biggest
mistake Microsoft made with Windows NT4 was making the GUI too close to Win95's
- made it way too easy for people to fall into the trap of thinking they're
very similar, which we know they are not. And that mentality is what led to a
lot of underqualified admins making poor choices, thereby giving NT4 the bad
rep it got. (Ok - maybe part of the reason)
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Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Milburn
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004
11:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS SOA
entered incorrectly during installation
Makes sense - although seems like if it
did the default domain suffix it would save some newbies a few hours or days...
then again, nah leave it as is, job security! LOL
The first couple of times I spent a long
time trying to figure this out and kept going back to the install DNS with
DCPROMO option. I found the SOA problem by accident (by reading the
dialog, funny how that helps sometimes)
Rich
From: Roger Seielstad
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004
9:07 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS SOA
entered incorrectly during installation
The SOA doesn't have to exist in the
domain in question. Put another way, the SOA for domain.com doesn't have to be
soa.domain.com, it could be soa.someotherdomain.com
For instance, look at my company's
primary domain (inovis.com) -
bash-2.04$ dig in soa inovis.com
; <<>> DiG 9.1.2
<<>> in soa inovis.com
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 39141
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;inovis.com.
IN SOA
;; ANSWER SECTION:
inovis.com.
1800 IN
SOA ns1.inovisinc.net. hostmaster.inovisinc.net.
2003121401 1800 600 604800 1800
The SOA record for inovis.com lives in
inovisinc.net. Therefore, it doesn't necessarily make sense for the SOA to
automatically populate with the suffix of the domain in which it exists.
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Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Milburn
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004
9:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] DNS SOA
entered incorrectly during installation
It's possible I've seen this behavior
because I'm doing something wrong, but I think it might be a bug? Anyway,
whenever I've set up DNS separately from DCPROMO, set up my forward and reverse
zones, then pointed my soon-to-be DC at it and run DCPROMO, it tells me the DNS
could not be found or does not accept dynamic registrations. So when I go
back onto the DNS to check what I did wrong, I find that I have to go into the
SOA record and add the domain name (to make it a FQDN and not just a host
name). Voila, it works. So the question is, if the SOA is created
automatically, and it knows the domain name (because it is the SOA record for
that domain's zone, duh!), shouldn't it write the FQDN there or assume if the
domain suffix is not specified that it should tack on it's own domain name just
like it does for any of the other records? Or am I missing something?
Thanks
Rich
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