I also don't agree with what you are saying concerning the maintenance
of the GCs.

If you only have 1 domain in the forest there is NO OVERHEAD in making
all DCs GCs. The size of your DIT will not grow in size because there
are no other domains. For its own and single domain the GCs will use
pointers to the domain data.

So if you have 1 domain, make all DCs GCs.

Even if you have multiple domains there as less issues in W2K3 compared
to W2K because W2K3 DCs/GCs use Linked Value Replication (only in FFL
w2k3) and for the partial attribute set it only replicates the deltas.
So even for a multiple domain forest I would consider making all DCs
GCs.

Concerning exchange I would not manually define the DCs and GCs it uses.
Let exchange itself figure that out. What are the reasons to manually
define the DCs/GCs it uses?

Cheers,
#JORGE#

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: dinsdag 5 juli 2005 10:51
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] GC

One site and all servers in that one site.


On 7/5/05, Rops, Arjan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How many sites do you have configured in your AD?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rubix cube
> Sent: dinsdag 5 juli 2005 10:34
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] GC
> 
> Suffering = users loose connectivity to their mailbox (the Outlook
> shows a message saying Trying to connect to your exchange server),
> users can't use their home directories on the servers, users not being
> able to print, basically users goes offline, waiting for the GC to be
> online, now this I understand if there was only one GC, but if 2, then
> this shouldn't happen,
> 
> i.e. the network appears to be seeing each GC as the only one.
> 
> Is there anything else other than checking the Global Catalogue check
> box to make a server GC? (and add it in the system manager in the
> exchange server as a GC too) ?
> 
> Thanks,
> r.c.
> 
> On 7/5/05, Ruston, Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I don't agree with the below at all, to be candid. I would rather
have
> 7 servers, knowing I can lose 1 or 2 without issue, rather than
working
> round the clock to keep 2 servers up all the time. To me, that's the
> beauty of systems like AD, where the system is distributed and self
> resilient. You however, have removed some of that resilience from the
> system and have thus moved the maintenance effort from the system onto
> your own lap.
> >
> > Anyway, now that's off my chest - I think you need to explain what
> 'the network suffers' means. What symptoms do you see when a GC goes
> offline? I'd also like to know why your GCs are going offline.
> >
> > We have 100+ GCs here and we probably have 4-5 issues per year. When
> we do have an issue, the net effect on the end user is negligible due
to
> the self healing and resilient nature of AD/GCs themselves.
> >
> > neil
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rubix cube
> > Sent: 05 July 2005 08:48
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] GC
> >
> >
> > Thanks for teh reply :)
> >
> > I will tell you, because now I have to maintain 2 servers (the GCs)
> online 24/7 I can't take one offline for maitenance for a second cause
> the network goes down, imagine if I upgrade the other 5, then I will
> have to keep 7 servers alive 24/7!!!!!!!
> >
> > I configure the exchange to use multiple GC, but why the network
> suffers if one of them goes offline? I dont' know? is it by design? or
> am I missing something
> >
> > thaks,
> > r.c.
> >
> >
> > On 7/5/05, Ruston, Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > "rough and ready" response :)
> > >
> > > 1. Client logons, Exchange GAL lookups and various other
components
> > > require a GC to be available, ideally in the same site. 2. Why are
> > > only 2 of the 7 DCs also GCs?
> > >
> > > Given that you are experiencing issues, I'd be inclined to
'upgrade'
> > > the remaining 5 DCs to GC status and ensure that your Exchange
> servers
> > > are configured to use multiple GCs.
> > >
> > > When all DCs are GCs, the infra master FSMO becomes redundant too,
> so
> > > that's one less FSMO to worry about catering for :)
> > >
> > > neil
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rubix
cube
> > > Sent: 05 July 2005 08:16
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: [ActiveDir] GC
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > I have 2 GC and 7 domain controllers, I made 2 GC so that if I had
> to
> > > take any one of them offline the other will be functional and the
> > > network will be ok, what happens is that if any of them goes
> offline,
> > > the network goes down, (includeing email service exchange). Any
> thing
> > > I should have done ?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > r.c.
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