I came <<this close>> to ripping out Trend in my office due to the BSOD, false positives and the infamous Friday incident. They are on probation right now.

The ones bantered around in our A/V wars discussions:

Symantec [not yellow box but corp]
Sophos
CA

I have a fellow SBSer in AU who LOVES Nod32.

Pick one... they are in reality ALL reactionary. Real geeks don't use A/V anyway. [you should have seen the thread on whether to stick a/v on a web server on the focus on ms listserve... if you set up a server for a select job, lock it down.... only serve up static pages.. why 'does' it need to be covered by A/V was the topic]



Tim Vander Kooi wrote:

I've only been on the list a short time, but I must have missed the
mandatory Trend Micro brainwashing. :-)
So far from what I have noticed there seems to be a set answer to all AV
questions.
Question: I'm curious about the capabilities of NOD32.
Answers (en mass): You should use Trend Micro.
Question: Is anyone using Symantec?
Answer (again en mass): You should buy Trend Micro.

Not that there is anything wrong with Trend Micro's product, it's great
in my opinion, but these responses don't seem to be very helpful with
regard to the questions being asked.

My apologies to the list "gods" if TM is the list sponsor. :-)
Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glen Miller
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 11:55 AM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Anti-virus protection in domain enviroment

Look into a product called Office Scan, by a company called Trend Micro.
I have been using this product happily since 1998.  It saved me from the
"I love you" bug and a few rather nasty ones since. "I want my two dollars!"

And Joe! Petitioning Webster's to include Joe-isms as an actual word.



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ahmed Al Awah
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 12:35 PM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Anti-virus protection in domain enviroment

Since we're on topic..is anyone using Symantec AntiVirus 10 corp edition
for A/V protection in a domain environment?

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
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Sent: October 4, 2005 11:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Anti-virus protection in domain enviroment


My 1 cent.

I should go back to lurking...but... when choosing your a/v solution there's something to check on... some of the a/v vendors have historically needed admin rights to update or have had vulnerabilities themselves.

Might be something to investigate and consider when chosing an a/v ...especially on a DC.

In my own historical issues with Trend, the OfficeProtect dat file upgrade to XP sp2 wasn't properly 'vetted" and flatlined my workstations

and last I heard cost Trend $8 mil in lost sales. They've also had a security vulnerability patched somewhat recently.

Epo's had their issues as well....

http://xforce.iss.net/xforce/xfdb/21839

ISS X-Force Database: epolicy-msde-obtain-password(12787): ePolicy Orchestrator could allow an attacker to obtain MSDE SA password:
http://xforce.iss.net/xforce/xfdb/12787

ISS X-Force Database: epolicy-execute-commands(14166): ePolicy Orchestrator command execution: http://xforce.iss.net/xforce/xfdb/14166



Al Garrett wrote:

My 2 cents...
EpO has worked outstanding for us.
Does inventory reports, finds "rogues", demonstrates to pointy-haired
bosses how many infections are avoided and how dangerous it is "out there."
Combined with CommTouch Anti-Spam solution.

   -----Original Message-----
   *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   *Sent:* Tuesday, October 04, 2005 8:36 AM
   *To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir] Anti-virus protection in domain enviroment

   Just to add a little to what Phil says:
When I last used ePO I found that possibly the most useful feature
   was the reporting aspect. This allows you (amongst others) to
   assess which viruses were found in the environment and therefore
   what action if any needs to be taken to prevent further infection.
Most organisations don't have any idea how many infections they
   suffer from or how regularly the infections occur. A tool such as
   ePO can help in this area quite significantly. [it's also a handy
   management tool which helps justify the ongoing AV costs :) ]
neil


         *___________________________*
         *Neil Ruston*
         Global Technology Infrastructure
         Nomura International plc



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   *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Phil
Renouf
   *Sent:* 04 October 2005 16:10
   *To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [ActiveDir] Anti-virus protection in domain enviroment

   Take a look at this article, it should give you the information
   you need to configure Antivirus on your DC's:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/822158 I don't have any experience running NOD32 on anything :) As for clients, most environments I have been in use a product
   similar to McAfee's EPO to centrally manage all the AV agents on
   the desktop to make sure they are configured to the corporate
   standard and that they have up to date scan engines and DAT files.
Phil

On 10/4/05, *Boris Demirov* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

       Hello everybody,
       I got some questions about the anti-virus protection of a
       domain controller
       and the domain environment:

       In my opinion the best AV program for the moment is NOD32 - I
       am using it
       successfully on many workstations, but I am not quite sure how
       it will act on
       a DC. What kind of protection do you use on your DCs and have
       somebody got a
       closer look on the NOD32 installed on a DC?
       And something else to ask: what kind of AV protect your
       workstations in
       domain, do you use a single copy of a normal AV or some
       enterprise edition?

       All advises on the topic of antivirus protection in domain
       controller and the
       stations in the domain are welcome.
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