I think he meant that he'd like to reboot without his USB-attached drives not being part of the boot process. :-)
Laura > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 9:28 PM > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT - Backup Follies > > Compaq ILO/RILOE board, Dell DRAC, IBM Remote Access, IP KVM > + APC PDU w/ remote access are all viable options... > > Thanks, > Brian Desmond > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > c - 312.731.3132 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Anderson > > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:03 PM > > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT - Backup Follies > > > > Susan, > > How did you do that I would love to be able to reboot > with a worry. > > > > > > Bob > > IT Guy > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan > Bradley, > > CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] > > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:04 PM > > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > > Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT - Backup Follies > > > > And on my DC I removed the USB drive as a boot device. > > > > So now I can be at home in my jammies and remotely reboot > the server > > with no issues and it will reboot just fine. > > > > Bob Anderson wrote: > > > Laura, > > > Yea that on bit me big time. Had our Domain Controller running > > and > > > added a USB Drive all was fine. Along came Microsoft with the > darned > > > Updates and there 'Computer Must be restarted' Well it restarted > > > alright and would not reboot. Talked to IBM Server Support for 4 > > > hours be for I finally figured it out myself. That was the only > time > > > I ever taught something to them and not the other way around. > > > > > > I have since update the restart procedure to say 'Power > off the USB > > > drive before the system restarts.' > > > > > > > > > Bob > > > IT Guy > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A. > > > Robinson > > > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 11:41 AM > > > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > > > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT - Backup Follies > > > > > > Umm, that was kinda the point I was trying to make, Bob. :-) > > > > > > Laura > > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob > > Anderson > > >> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 11:09 AM > > >> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > > >> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT - Backup Follies > > >> > > >> Laura, > > >> It doesn't matter what the boot order is. Most servers have an > > >> internal Raid configuration that doesn't kick in until after the > > >> machine goes through it's start up and by them it has > found the USB > > >> and not the hard disks. > > >> > > >> And yes I have this on two of my servers. > > >> > > >> Bob Anderson > > >> IT Guy > > >> Kent Sporting Goods > > >> 433 Park Ave. S > > >> New London OH 44851 > > >> 419-929-7021 x315 > > >> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A. > > >> Robinson > > >> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 10:52 AM > > >> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > > >> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT - Backup Follies > > >> > > >> What's the boot order in the BIOS on those machines? > > >> > > >> Laura > > >> > > >> > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Albert > > Duro > > >>> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 10:54 AM > > >>> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > > >>> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT - Backup Follies > > >>> > > >>> Ah, that brings up another interesting point. I use USB > > >>> > > >> external hard > > >> > > >> > > >>> drives too, and I've found that some WinXP and > > >>> Server2003 machines will not boot if a USB hard drive is > > >>> > > >> attached--I > > >> > > >>> have to remember to turn it off while booting. > > >>> Anyone else seen this? > > >>> > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>> From: "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" > > >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>> To: <ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org> > > >>> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 9:02 PM > > >>> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT - Backup Follies (was) Exchange > > >>> > > >> Log files > > >> > > >>> --Disk > > >>> Full-- > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> No tape drives here. If it has a USB connection we are > > >>>> > > >> in business. > > >> > > >>>> Albert Duro wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> Yes, BE does do disk backup. But I have some objections: > > >>>>> A. They don't make it easy, infact they make an > unnecessarily > > >>>>> complicated production of it. > > >>>>> B. I started doing NTBackup to disk while (and because) > > >>>>> > > >>> I was still > > >>> > > >>>>> troubleshooting BE. When I gave up on BE and its > > >>>>> > > >>> brethren, NTBackup > > >>> > > >>>>> was a natural segway, and already in place and working. > > >>>>> C. I discovered one great advantage that > > >>>>> > > >>> NTBackup-to-disk has over > > >>> > > >>>>> any other backup system: with a bit of planning, it is > > >>>>> > > >>> proof against > > >>> > > >>>>> almost any combination of crash and burn. You have a > > >>>>> > > >>> backup file on > > >>> > > >>>>> two or more disks/machines. Things go bad, you can do > > >>>>> > > >>> recovery from > > >>> > > >>>>> any Windows machine; you can move or copy the backup > > >>>>> > > >>> disks/files to > > >>> > > >>>>> any machine. Try doing that with a sophisticated > tape-based or > > >>>>> SAN-based system. Imagine having to replace the tape > > >>>>> drive/autoloader with the exact same type, while rebuilding a > > >>>>> same-hardware three-year old server to the exact same > > >>>>> > > >>> configuration, > > >>> > > >>>>> same SPs, same backup software, same drivers. I can > > >>>>> > > >>> guarantee that > > >>> > > >>>>> at least one of those necessary replacement elements will be > > >>>>> impossible to find, even under leisurely conditions. [1] > > >>>>> > > >>> Yes, there > > >>> > > >>>>> are strategies to deal with that, but if you could spend > > >>>>> > > >>> that kind of > > >>> > > >>>>> money, you would have gotten a double-redundant > > >>>>> > > >>> bullet-proof system in the first place. > > >>> > > >>>>> I truly hope that I'm wrong out of lack of knowledge and > > >>>>> > > >>> pessimism. > > >>> > > >>>>> I am open to being corrected and encouraged. > > >>>>> [1] Naturally, the tape drive drivers will be on the same > > >>>>> > > >>> tape that > > >>> > > >>>>> you can't access nohow. Download the drivers from the > > >>>>> > > >>> OEM, you say? > > >>> > > >>>>> Chances are excellent that the OEM has gone out of > > >>>>> > > >>> business, or sold > > >>> > > >>>>> out to a giant who prunes out what they don't like (and > > >>>>> > > >> what you > > >> > > >>>>> need), or changed the name or version number on it > out of sheer > > >>>>> orneryness. If you do get to what looks like the > right drivers, > > >>>>> you're likely to find that the last minor upgrade version > > >>>>> > > >>> that really > > >>> > > >>>>> worked well for you has been dropped, or tweaked into > > >>>>> > > >> your trouble > > >> > > >>>>> zone. I can testify to ALL these experiences. I think > > >>>>> > > >>> others can too. > > >>> > > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>>>> > > >>>>> *From:* Al Mulnick <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>>>> *To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > > >>>>> <mailto:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org> > > >>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:27 PM > > >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [ActiveDir] OT - Backup Follies (was) > > >>>>> > > >>> Exchange Log > > >>> > > >>>>> files --Disk Full-- > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Trying to remember exactly, but doesn't BE have an > > >>>>> > > >>> option to use > > >>> > > >>>>> disk vs. tape drives? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> You *could* run a test to help simplify and rule out > > >>>>> > > >>> some of the > > >>> > > >>>>> complexity. Could take a while, but might be worth it. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Al > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On 11/2/06, *Albert Duro* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Why does NTBackup work for me and BE not, when > > >>>>> > > >> they are at > > >> > > >>>>> core the same product? > > >>>>> I wondered about that too. Here are my thoughts. > > >>>>> First, NTBackup is a simpler product that doesn't > > >>>>> > > >>> get tangled > > >>> > > >>>>> up with the complexities of scheduling and a GUI. > > >>>>> But the real reason, I think, is that I've been doing > > >>>>> NTBackups to disk, while BE was to tape. > > >>>>> I've always suspected that most, if not all of my > > >>>>> > > >>> difficulties > > >>> > > >>>>> with BE had to do with the drivers for the tape > > >>>>> > > >> drives and > > >> > > >>>>> autoloaders, and with the SCSI interface to other > devices > > >>>>> ('other' being anything beyond the normal HD and CD > > >>>>> complement) > > >>>>> > > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>>>> *From:* Al Mulnick <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>>>> *To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > > >>>>> <mailto:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org> > > >>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 01, 2006 6:11 AM > > >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange Log > files --Disk > > >>>>> Full-- > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Well put Albert. Thanks for that feedback. > > >>>>> What still has me curious is why BE wouldn't > > >>>>> > > >>> work in your > > >>> > > >>>>> environment and why ntbackup does (partially > > >>>>> > > >>> at least). > > >>> > > >>>>> ntbackup as written by the same exact people and has a lot > > >>>>> of the same code (it's licensed by Microsoft > > >>>>> > > >>> from Seagate > > >>> > > >>>>> last I checked). Ntbackup is the less > > >>>>> > > >> featured version > > >> > > >>>>> designed for single host backups and extended > > >>>>> > > >>> to act like > > >>> > > >>>>> it does more. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> So that said, I agree that the goal is that > > >>>>> > > >>> your client's > > >>> > > >>>>> data is backed up. I have to say that I > > >>>>> > > >> disagree that > > >> > > >>>>> jury-rigs, mickey mouse and by the seat of > > >>>>> > > >>> your pants is > > >>> > > >>>>> the long term solution though. That's an > > >>>>> > > >>> infrastructure > > >>> > > >>>>> component that will come back to haunt at some > > >>>>> > > >>> point down > > >>> > > >>>>> the road. As an interim fix, of course it can > > >>>>> > > >>> work. I'm > > >>> > > >>>>> not blinded by the big vendors to the point > > >>>>> > > >>> that I think > > >>> > > >>>>> they have the only solution. Far from it. > > >>>>> > > >>> But I like to > > >>> > > >>>>> think that I can at least share some > perspective and > > >>>>> experience related to where it leads and I > definitely > > >>>>> favor technology over layer8 processes. Why? > Because > > >>>>> layer8 changes and grows out of current positions > and > > >>>>> foundational solutions should not have to be > > >>>>> > > >> decimated > > >> > > >>>>> when that happens. I've seen that way too > > >>>>> > > >>> often to care > > >>> > > >>>>> to see it continue where possible. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Basically, I hate to see a foundational > > >>>>> > > >>> solution such as > > >>> > > >>>>> backup, rely on such complexity and human > > >>>>> > > >>> intervention. I > > >>> > > >>>>> completely understand that you have to do what > > >>>>> > > >>> you have to > > >>> > > >>>>> do. When you wrote it in your original email, > > >>>>> > > >>> it sounded > > >>> > > >>>>> like you approved of that method. Reading > > >>>>> > > >>> this last one, > > >>> > > >>>>> I can you don't. I was just trying to point > > >>>>> > > >> out where > > >> > > >>>>> that leads and trying to understand how you go > > >>>>> > > >>> there. I > > >>> > > >>>>> bet I would have gotten there the same way you did > ;) > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Best of luck getting that worked out. > > >>>>> If you need anything from me, please don't > > >>>>> > > >> hesitate. I > > >> > > >>>>> have been known to make some backup > > >>>>> > > >> solutions work :) > > >> > > >>>>> Feel free to ping off-line if I can be of any help. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On 10/31/06, *Albert Duro* > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Al, since you ask, no I don't see it > > >>>>> > > >>> differently, at > > >>> > > >>>>> least not at the oratorical level. But where > the > > >>>>> rubber meets the road, things can look > > >>>>> > > >>> very different. > > >>> > > >>>>> Like the military say, the best laid plan > > >>>>> > > >>> falls apart > > >>> > > >>>>> the moment it meets the enemy. You > assume that > I > > >>>>> monkey around with Ntbackup and balky > media for > > >>>>> economic reasons. In fact, we spared > no expense > > >>>>> (relative to our small size) to put in > > >>>>> industrial-strength backup systems, both > > >>>>> > > >>> software and > > >>> > > >>>>> hardware. Even paid consultants to set it up > and > > >>>>> manage it. > > >>>>> It blew up in our faces. Primarily > > >>>>> > > >> because Backup > > >> > > >>>>> Exec just wouldn't work right in our > > >>>>> > > >> environment. > > >> > > >>>>> (I'm not saying that BE isn't a fine product, it would > > >>>>> just never work for us). Why not? > > >>>>> > > >> Don't know -- I > > >> > > >>>>> couldn't figure it out. Our consultants > couldn't > > >>>>> figure it out. Veritas support couldn't > > >>>>> > > >>> either, nor > > >>> > > >>>>> the autoloader manufacturer. For more > > >>>>> > > >>> than two years, > > >>> > > >>>>> nobody could figure it out, until I > > >>>>> > > >> decided to stop > > >> > > >>>>> throwing good money after bad. > > >>>>> Did I try alternative products? In the > > >>>>> > > >> same class, > > >> > > >>>>> yes -- more tales of woe, but different > > >>>>> > > >>> reasons. We > > >>> > > >>>>> did not nor are we going to buy the > > >>>>> > > >>> high-end systems, > > >>> > > >>>>> which cost more than our whole > network is worth. > > >>>>> So I was left with NTBackup, and admittedly a > > >>>>> little more gun-shyness about > brand-name backup > > >>>>> products than is strictly rational. > > >>>>> > > >> That's what I > > >> > > >>>>> have to work with, and I try to make the > > >>>>> > > >>> best of it. > > >>> > > >>>>> That's the 'real world' in my little corner of it. > > >>>>> Believe me, when you and joe and others on > > >>>>> > > >>> this list > > >>> > > >>>>> urge us to 'make the best', I listen, I > > >>>>> > > >>> learn, and I > > >>> > > >>>>> applaud. And it does push me in that > > >>>>> > > >>> direction. But > > >>> > > >>>>> the only path there goes through 'make > > >>>>> > > >> the best of > > >> > > >>>>> what you've got'. It's bumpy and often > > >>>>> > > >> barricaded. > > >> > > >>>>> But after all is said and done, the REAL > > >>>>> > > >>> point is that > > >>> > > >>>>> I am preserving my clients' data and keeping > them > > >>>>> happy. Jury-rigs, mickey mouse, and > > >>>>> > > >>> by-the-pants not > > >>> > > >>>>> withstanding. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> -- Original Message ----- > > >>>>> > > >>>>> *From:* Al Mulnick > > >>>>> > > >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> > > >>>>> *To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > > >>>>> <mailto:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org> > > >>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 29, 2006 4:30 AM > > >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange Log > files > > >>>>> --Disk Full-- > > >>>>> > > >>>>> sub-optimal media are part of the real > world? > > >>>>> Wow, thanks :) > > >>>>> Truth be told, that's a rant of mine. > > >>>>> > > >>> I've heard > > >>> > > >>>>> a lot (lately especially) about how we > > >>>>> > > >>> want to do > > >>> > > >>>>> things cheap and inexpensive and we'll fix > it > > >>>>> later and so on. I've also spent a > > >>>>> > > >>> great deal of > > >>> > > >>>>> time cleaning up that kind of stuff. > > >>>>> Unfortunately, once it escapes into the "real > > >>>>> world" then it becomes more difficult > > >>>>> > > >>> to clean up > > >>> > > >>>>> because you have to do so in front of > > >>>>> customers/clients. > > >>>>> Interesting approach though. > Usually a less > > >>>>> disciplined from what I've seen and > > >>>>> > > >>> often results > > >>> > > >>>>> in more expense related to downtime and > > >>>>> troubleshooting and lack of service. I'm > > >>>>> interested if you see differently though. > > >>>>> This area of the business > fascinates me.... > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On 10/28/06, *Albert Duro* > > >>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I'm sure you and Susan are > > >>>>> > > >> right. All I'm > > >> > > >>>>> saying is that it *can* happen, > > >>>>> > > >> and for me, > > >> > > >>>>> why take the chance when > > >>>>> > > >>> one-job/one-task is > > >>> > > >>>>> easy to do. > > >>>>> Good point about the media, > and that may > > >>>>> explain my case, but, hey, > > >>>>> > > >>> sub-optimal media > > >>> > > >>>>> situations are part of the real world. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>>>> *From:* Al Mulnick > > >>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>>>> *To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > > >>>>> > <mailto:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org> > > >>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 28, > > >>>>> > > >>> 2006 6:33 AM > > >>> > > >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [ActiveDir] > > >>>>> > > >> Exchange Log > > >> > > >>>>> files --Disk Full-- > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I've not had that same > experience. > > >>>>> Granted, it's a limited feature utility > > >>>>> (note the use of the word > > >>>>> > > >>> utility vs. tool > > >>> > > >>>>> as requested) but it's still > > >>>>> > > >> capable of > > >> > > >>>>> doing more. There were some fixes > to > > >>>>> ntbackup in service packs and > > >>>>> > > >>> such. You > > >>> > > >>>>> might want to verify you're using > the > > >>>>> latest version of that's > > >>>>> > > >> what you see. > > >> > > >>>>> Also, check the media it's > > >>>>> > > >> headed to. > > >> > > >>>>> It's error handling is not very elegant, > > >>>>> but I've found it to be useful > > >>>>> > > >>> and strong > > >>> > > >>>>> enough to stand up to some > > >>>>> > > >>> complex tasks > > >>> > > >>>>> in the past. I've got several > > >>>>> > > >>> running now > > >>> > > >>>>> via cli that have been in > > >>>>> > > >>> place for more > > >>> > > >>>>> than half a year without issue > > >>>>> > > >>> (I know, I > > >>> > > >>>>> know, spend all that money on an > > >>>>> enterprise backup system > > >>>>> > > >> only to backup > > >> > > >>>>> some machines locally. But there > are > > >>>>> times when it makes more > > >>>>> > > >>> sense, trust me.) > > >>> > > >>>>> -ajm > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On 10/27/06, *Albert Duro* > > >>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>>> I've found, with NTbackup, > > >>>>> > > >>> that if you > > >>> > > >>>>> cram two or more tasks > > >>>>> > > >>> into a backup > > >>> > > >>>>> job, it's very likely to > > >>>>> > > >> fail. For > > >> > > >>>>> example, if you do a > > >>>>> > > >>> System State and > > >>> > > >>>>> a file backup and an > > >>>>> > > >>> Exchange backup > > >>> > > >>>>> in the same job. It's best to > > >>>>> separate each task into > > >>>>> > > >>> its own job, > > >>> > > >>>>> and sort it out in the > > >>>>> > > >> scheduling. > > >> > > >>>>> A mixed job will also work > > >>>>> > > >>> for a while > > >>> > > >>>>> and then fail, which > > >>>>> > > >>> sounds like what > > >>> > > >>>>> happened to OP. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> ----- Original > Message ----- > > >>>>> *From:* Wells, > James Arthur > > >>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>>>> *To:* > > >>>>> > > >>> ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > > >>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>> <mailto:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org> > > >>> > > >>>>> *Cc:* Technical Support > > >>>>> > > >>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, > > >>>>> > > >>> October 26, 2006 > > >>> > > >>>>> 2:21 PM > > >>>>> *Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir] > > >>>>> Exchange Log files > > >>>>> > > >>> --Disk Full-- > > >>> > > >>>>> Do you have multiple > > >>>>> > > >>> information > > >>> > > >>>>> stores on this > > >>>>> > > >> storage group? > > >> > > >>>>> (If using Exchange Enterprise > > >>>>> edition)...the logs > > >>>>> > > >> can't flush > > >> > > >>>>> until all stores > have a full > > >>>>> backup, because > the logs are > > >>>>> shared... > > >>>>> --James > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>> -------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>> ---------- > > >>> > > >>>>> *From:* > > >>>>> > > >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>>> > > >>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>>>> [mailto: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>>> > > >>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > > >>>>> *On Behalf Of > > >>>>> > > >>> *Technical Support > > >>> > > >>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, > > >>>>> > > >>> October 26, 2006 > > >>> > > >>>>> 3:16 PM > > >>>>> *To:* > > >>>>> ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > > >>>>> > > >>>>> <mailto:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org>; > > >>>>> > ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>> <mailto:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org> > > >>> > > >>>>> *Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir] > > >>>>> Exchange Log files > > >>>>> > > >>> --Disk Full-- > > >>> > > >>>>> Hi, > > >>>>> I am running Normal > > >>>>> > > >>> Backup. Using > > >>> > > >>>>> NTBackup Utility. > Backing up > > >>>>> Information store. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>> -------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>> ---------- > > >>> > > >>>>> *From:* > > >>>>> > > >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>>> > > >>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>>>> on behalf of > Missy Koslosky > > >>>>> *Sent:* Thu > > >>>>> > > >> 10/26/2006 12:49 PM > > >> > > >>>>> *To:* > > >>>>> > > >>> ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > > >>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>> <mailto:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org> > > >>> > > >>>>> *Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir] > > >>>>> Exchange Log files > > >>>>> > > >>> --Disk Full-- > > >>> > > >>>>> Are you running full > > >>>>> > > >>> (AKA normal) > > >>> > > >>>>> backups every night? > > >>>>> > > >>> It seems not. > > >>> > > >>>>> Use NTBackup to > > >>>>> > > >> backup to disk > > >> > > >>>>> (obviously, you'll > > >>>>> > > >> need a disk > > >> > > >>>>> with over 120GB > of available > > >>>>> space) and then > use whatever > > >>>>> normal program you > > >>>>> > > >> use to back > > >> > > >>>>> that backup onto tape. > > >>>>> > > >>> This will > > >>> > > >>>>> keep you running > > >>>>> > > >> until you sort > > >> > > >>>>> out why your normal backup > > >>>>> software isn't > > >>>>> > > >>> flushing the logs > > >>> > > >>>>> when the backup completes. > > >>>>> How are you > > >>>>> > > >> currently running > > >> > > >>>>> backups? What software > > >>>>> > > >>> is in use? > > >>> > > >>>>> Are you sure it's > > >>>>> > > >>> Exchange aware? > > >>> > > >>>>> Are you doing brick > > >>>>> > > >>> level backups > > >>> > > >>>>> or copy backups > > >>>>> > > >>> instead of a full > > >>> > > >>>>> backup? Neither will > > >>>>> > > >>> flush the logs. > > >>> > > >>>>> I'd resolve this as > > >>>>> > > >> quickly as > > >> > > >>>>> possible, because if > > >>>>> > > >>> you are in a > > >>> > > >>>>> situation where you > > >>>>> > > >>> have to replay > > >>> > > >>>>> the logs, you're NOT > > >>>>> > > >>> going to be a > > >>> > > >>>>> happy camper. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>> -------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>> ---------- > > >>> > > >>>>> *From:* > > >>>>> > > >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>>> > > >>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>>>> [mailto: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>>> > > >>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > > >>>>> *On Behalf Of > > >>>>> > > >>> *Technical Support > > >>> > > >>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, > > >>>>> > > >>> October 26, 2006 > > >>> > > >>>>> 11:09 AM > > >>>>> *To:* > > >>>>> > > >>> ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > > >>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>> <mailto:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org> > > >>> > > >>>>> *Subject:* > > >>>>> > > >> [ActiveDir] Exchange > > >> > > >>>>> Log files --Disk Full-- > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Hi All, > > >>>>> Kindly suggest, > > >>>>> > > >> what i can do > > >> > > >>>>> about my Exchange > Log files? > > >>>>> I have about 120 GB > > >>>>> > > >>> Log files for > > >>> > > >>>>> past 4 months. I have > > >>>>> > > >>> a few doubts:- > > >>> > > >>>>> Do i really need all > > >>>>> > > >>> those log > > >>> > > >>>>> files? > > >>>>> If yes, Then how is it > > >>>>> > > >>> possible to > > >>> > > >>>>> manage with this as i > > >>>>> > > >>> have a very > > >>> > > >>>>> limited space left. > > >>>>> Can i delete these log > files? > > >>>>> Backup doesnt remove > > >>>>> > > >>> these log files? > > >>> > > >>>>> i am really running > > >>>>> > > >>> out of space > > >>> > > >>>>> on my Exchange log > > >>>>> > > >>> storage drive. > > >>> > > >>>>> *Thanks!!!* > > >>>>> Ravi > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > > >>>> List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > > >>>> List archive: > > >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ > > >>>> > > >>> List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > > >>> List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > > >>> List archive: > > >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ > > >>> > > >> List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > > >> List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > > >> List archive: > > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ > > >> List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > > >> List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > > >> List archive: > > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ > > >> > > > > > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > > > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > > > List archive: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ > > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > > > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > > > List archive: > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ > > > > > > > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > > List archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > > List archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/
