Ok, thanks. It's only a testing machine. I'll leave it alone. Mike
On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 00:10:56 -0800 "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Put duct tape over the top and forget about them. > > Seriously...you mess with those (especially the OU stuff) and you will > break some wizards in SBS. Kinda like the Kitchen Sink stuff.... you > live with it or if you do mess with 'em, please do so not on a client's > box and only on your own that only you will touch because if there's one > thing that will make me take forks out and start stabbing folks is when > you mess up a clients box. > > Truly... when a SBSer who knows the quirks about SBS comes into a > network and sees stuff screwed around with, they will > swingmigration/flatten it and get it back to a known state because it > costs the client more in the long run when it's not "default". Granted > that "default" may not be what big server land considers default... but > it is what it is. > > I'll ping you up with Paula aka Lanwench... the world wide "Former > Enterprisers who hate the quirks of SBS but deal with them anyway" is > starting new chapters daily. > > Michael B Allen wrote: > > Yeah, but you can just ignore it and it's not the default Users > > or Computers containers. Still, is there a safe way to remove > > those? Similarly there's a safe way to remove the Default-First-Site-Name > > stuff too? > > > > Mike > > > > On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 20:28:42 -0800 > > "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/archive/2005/07/27/59808.aspx > >> http://www.sbslinks.com/images/wp5z50vd.gif > >> > >> Joe? Deji? Got some forks? > >> > >> Laura A. Robinson wrote: > >> > >>> Please tell me that you're making that up. Otherwise I'll have to stab > >>> myself in the eye with a fork. "My Business"???? > >>> > >>> Words fail me. :-) > >>> > >>> Laura > >>> > >>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > >>>> Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] > >>>> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 9:13 PM > >>>> To: [email protected] > >>>> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] _msdcs not propagated in AXFR > >>>> > >>>> We install the Kitchen Sink service too don't forget.... ;-) > >>>> > >>>> (wait until we start talking about the My Business > >>>> OU...that's usually good for another freak out or two) > >>>> > >>>> Laura A. Robinson wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Small point- dcpromo creates those zones as mentioned in > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> the original > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> question *if* you have not configured DNS beforehand, *if* > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> you tell > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> dcpromo to go ahead and do it for you, and *if* you're building the > >>>>> forest root domain. If you have configured DNS beforehand, how the > >>>>> zones get created (as stub zones, as subdomains, etc.) will > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> depend on > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> that preconfiguration. If you're not building the forest > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> root domain, > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> the subdomain already exists and dcpromo is just populating it. > >>>>> > >>>>> I bring this up only because there are many companies that have > >>>>> existing DNS infrastructures and it's important to know > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> that "default" > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> is not equivalent to "mandatory". It is not a requirement that the > >>>>> _msdcs zone be either a separate zone or a subdomain in an existing > >>>>> zone, whether it's a stub or a full zone, etc. > >>>>> > >>>>> Of course, since we're talking SBS, all of this goes out the window > >>>>> (no pun intended). SBS is its own freaky little animal. > >>>>> > >>>>> Laura > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hans > >>>>>> Halbmayr > >>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 1:06 PM > >>>>>> To: [email protected] > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] _msdcs not propagated in AXFR > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Usually dcpromo creates all these zones. Windows creates > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> these zones > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>> in a forest partition. If you have a linux DNS server just create > >>>>>> another slave zone of _msdcs.example.com. > >>>>>> The gray one is only the delegation. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Hans > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ----- Original Message ---- > >>>>>> From: Michael B Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>> To: [email protected] > >>>>>> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2006 5:39:26 PM > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] _msdcs not propagated in AXFR > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Ok, so basically _msdcs is just a separate zone. Do Windows DNS > >>>>>> setups usually do this? I'm using SBS. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I have a bind DNS server running on a linux machine with a > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> slave zone > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>> for example.com. The AXFR doesn't have those records > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> (aside from the > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>> NS record). So what you're saying is that I need to setup another > >>>>>> slave zone for the _msdcs subdomain? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Mike > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 03:02:22 -0800 (PST) Hans Halbmayr > >>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hi Mike, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> the gray one is the delegation of the zone. The _msdcs ist > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> a subdomain of your forest root. Because it is needed all over the > >>>>>> forest it is delegated. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Regards > >>>>>>> Hans > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ---- > >>>>>>> From: Michael B Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>>> To: [email protected] > >>>>>>> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2006 12:15:29 AM > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] _msdcs not propagated in AXFR > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I'm not sure I understand. In DNS admin I see two zones. One for > >>>>>>> _msdcs.example.com with all the usual _msdcs records and one for > >>>>>>> example.com which incedentally has an NS record for > >>>>>>> _msdcs.example.com. The little folder thingy for this > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> _msdcs is grey > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> which I guess signifies that it's some kind of link to the > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> other zone? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> So I understand why the _msdcs records other than the one > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>> NS record > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>> are not transferring but I don't understand why the > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> structure is split > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> into two zones and if I can/should do something about it. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Mike > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 11:27:14 -0800 > >>>>>>> "Akomolafe, Deji" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Seen this? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/817470 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Sincerely, > >>>>>>>> _____ > >>>>>>>> (, / | /) /) /) > >>>>>>>> /---| (/_ ______ ___// _ // _ > >>>>>>>> ) / |_/(__(_) // (_(_)(/_(_(_/(__(/_ > >>>>>>>> (_/ /) > >>>>>>>> (/ > >>>>>>>> Microsoft MVP - Directory Services > >>>>>>>> www.akomolafe.com - we know IT > >>>>>>>> -5.75, -3.23 > >>>>>>>> Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> worried about > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Yesterday? -anon > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> From: Michael B Allen > >>>>>>>> Sent: Fri 12/1/2006 9:40 AM > >>>>>>>> To: [email protected] > >>>>>>>> Subject: [ActiveDir] _msdcs not propagated in AXFR > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Does anyone know why the _msdcs records are not returned > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> in an AXFR > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> DNS query? This means that slave zones will not have > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> those records > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> and that software querying for a domain controller may > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> not find one. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Mike > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> Michael B Allen > >>>>>>>> PHP Active Directory SSO > >>>>>>>> http://www.ioplex.com/ > >>>>>>>> List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > >>>>>>>> List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > >>>>>>>> List archive: > >>>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> Michael B Allen > >>>>>>> PHP Active Directory SSO > >>>>>>> http://www.ioplex.com/ > >>>>>>> List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > >>>>>>> List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > >>>>>>> List archive: > >>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>> _____________________________________________________________________ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>> _ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> ______________ > >>>>>>> Do you Yahoo!? > >>>>>>> Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! 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