BTW, speaking strictly about directory objects, if you use an account that
is NOT a member of Domain Admins but IS a member of Administrators (DLG),
the ownership of the object works exactly the same way as it does if the
account is a member of Domain Admins and not a direct member of
Administrators.

File system objects are still a bit different. :-)

Laura 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Murray
> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 3:12 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Is it possible to determine who 
> created an AD object?
> 
> 
> I did Laura's test (the thread was wearing me down ;-)).
> 
> Even with the policy set to "Object Creator" it still shows 
> Domain Admins as the owner if I create an object with an 
> account that is member of Domain Admins.  In my case the 
> Domain Admins group is a member of the built-in 
> Administrators group.  This means that I saw the option in 
> the security tab to change the ownership from Domain Admins 
> to either Administrators or the account I was logged in with.
> 
> The conclusion is that you can't use this policy to change 
> the behaviour for AD accounts.  Might be different for local 
> accounts on member servers and workstations - but I haven't 
> tested this.
> 
> Tony
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: "Laura A. Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [email protected]
> Date:  Tue, 05 Dec 2006 13:44:47 -0500
> 
> Have you tested this?
> 
> 
>    _____  
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 12:53 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Is it possible to determine who 
> created an AD object?
> 
> 
> 
> If you are member of ADMINISTRATORS directly or indirectly 
> through a CUSTOM group it will by default list 
> ADMINISTRATORS. Changing the policy lists the object creator.
> 
> If you are member of DOMAIN ADMINS also, it will list DOMAIN 
> ADMINS…. Is this what you mean?
> 
>  
> 
> If the latter is the case check with REPADMIN /SHOWOBJMETA on 
> which DC the object was created (also note the date and 
> time). On the DC that is listed as the originating DC for the 
> account creation check the security log. If it concerns 
> SECURITY PRINICIPAL objects you might be lucky if you have 
> configured Account Management for SUCCESS (also the default 
> if I’m not mistaken). If it concerns OTHER objects you are 
> lucky if you have configured directory service access for 
> SUCCESS (also the default if I’m not mistaken) AND you have 
> configured one or more SACLs on objects or Ous with objects 
> that should be audited
> 
>  
> 
> jorge
> 
>  
> 
> 
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Laura A. Robinson
> Sent: dinsdag 5 december 2006 18:20
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Is it possible to determine who 
> created an AD object?
> 
>  
> 
> I'd say that you should test it. Create and link a policy 
> where you've set "system objects: default owner for objects 
> created by members of the administrators group" to "Object 
> creator". Then create a user in AD and check the ownership.
> 
>  
> 
> Laura
> 
>  
> 
> 
>    _____  
> 
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 2:25 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Is it possible to determine who 
> created an AD object?
> 
> ? 
> 
> can you explain?
> 
>  
> 
> Met vriendelijke groeten / Kind regards,
> 
> Ing. Jorge de Almeida Pinto
> 
> Senior Infrastructure Consultant
> 
> MVP Windows Server - Directory Services
> 
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> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Laura 
> A. Robinson
> Sent: Tue 2006-12-05 01:45
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Is it possible to determine who 
> created an AD object?
> 
> Which will have no effect on the ownership of the directory objects.
> 
>  
> 
> Laura
> 
>  
> 
> 
>    _____  
> 
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 4:17 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Is it possible to determine who 
> created an AD object?
> 
> look at the owner....
> 
>  
> 
> if it lists ADMINISTRATORS, you might wanna change the 
> security option in the default DCs GPO which is called: 
> "system objects: default owner for objects created by members 
> of the administrators group"
> 
>  
> 
> Met vriendelijke groeten / Kind regards,
> 
> Ing. Jorge de Almeida Pinto
> 
> Senior Infrastructure Consultant
> 
> MVP Windows Server - Directory Services
> 
>  
> 
> LogicaCMG Nederland B.V. (BU RTINC Eindhoven)
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> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Mitch Reid
> Sent: Mon 2006-12-04 21:14
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [ActiveDir] Is it possible to determine who created 
> an AD object?
> 
> ? 
> 
> We had a few user accounts that were deleted and then 
> recreated and nobody will take responsibility.
> 
> I used ADSIedit to verify the creation date/time.
> 
>  
> 
> While auditing is enabled, the Security log rolled and we 
> missed the event (yes I know it's an issue).
> 
>  
> 
> Is there a way to see who created the the user object?
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks, Mitch.
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