That sounds a lot like the ColdFusion world from which I've recently come... they're all gung-ho about CFMX, which has a few new features but far many more bugs because it's a total re-write in Java. That community is gaga over it although it does not much more than the previous version. .NET, on the other hand...
Matthew Small IT Supervisor Showstopper National Dance Competitions 3660 Old Kings Hwy Murrells Inlet, SC 29576 843-357-1847 http://www.showstopperonline.com -----Original Message----- From: Tore Bostrup [mailto:tbostrup@;telocity.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 3:15 PM To: ActiveServerPages Subject: Re: J2EE vs .NET The way I've heard "manage-by-magazine" used has been as a somewhat derogatory term for someone who bases their technology activity and product choices primarily on ads, magazine reviews, and articles. That tends to result in being gung-ho about new and flashy products and technologies, often without a sound basis in real application and the business at hand. HTH, Tore. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Small" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ActiveServerPages" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 1:41 PM Subject: RE: J2EE vs .NET > Could you explain the "Manage-by-magazine" thing? That sounds > interesting. > > Matthew Small > IT Supervisor > Showstopper National Dance Competitions > 3660 Old Kings Hwy > Murrells Inlet, SC 29576 > 843-357-1847 > http://www.showstopperonline.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: jcaffee [mailto:jcaffee@;erols.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 12:50 PM > To: ActiveServerPages > Subject: RE: J2EE vs .NET > > Sheesh guys...are you new to this game? > > Without exception, the customers I encounter are doing J2EE for > webservices and .NET for the "Application" and "Presentation" layers for > enterprise applications. > > These are companies that have HUGE investments in UNIX enterprise > servers (WebLogic, WebSphere, etc) and want some of the convenience that > .NET provides to data presentation, re-use of their OO developers (Good > thing...means they aren't running offshore for their dev needs) and easy > implementation of webservices. I am speaking in the billions of records > affected for a simple reporting query and in the multi-millions of > records for update/insert/create query operations. > > Customer perception, right or wrong, is...UNIX = clusterable, scalable, > reliable...Windows = not. Give .NET another six-months in production > with high-capacity, mission-critical enterprise apps (specifically in > finance and manufacturing), and then this benchmark will have value. > Otherwise, no matter how many esoteric, theoretical, optimal benchmarks > you provide, you will be shouting to deaf ears at the CIO, COT, and > Architect levels. > > There are no "KO" scenarios in tech any longer...us CTO/Architects just > don't do that any more...and even the MBMs (Manage-by-magazine) types > who hold the purse strings have backed way, way off from the "Must have" > technology pushes from four years ago...tech is a much different game > these days, don't look for rapid, revolutionary change, but easy, calm > evolution. > > Cheers, > > Jonathan C. Caffee > Caffee Consulting > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris [mailto:15seconds@;dracoassociates.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 11:56 AM > To: ActiveServerPages > Subject: RE: J2EE vs .NET > > > > Thanks Daniel, this is powerful stuff > <SNIP> > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to activeserverpages as: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > %%email.unsub%% > > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to activeserverpages as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% > --- You are currently subscribed to activeserverpages as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% --- You are currently subscribed to activeserverpages as: [email protected] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
