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________________________________
 From: david bangs <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 11:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Adastra] Adastra Digest, Vol 75, Issue 11
 
Sarah...how do you know there is no 'vandalism' in the forbidden countryside if 
you meekly do not go there?? (and, by the way, both Scotland and Scandinavia 
have a freedom to roam, which is accepted with a broad measure of consensus and 
lack of controversy).

I can tell you categorically that there is much more 'vandalism' on private, 
forbidden countryside than on public land...kids, dogs, litter, and travellers 
notwithstanding...

Myself and friends are just in the middle of a long term survey of middle 
Sussex for old unimproved meadows and pastures and I can tell you that it is a 
hard task finding them, so comprehensively have private landowners destroyed 
them...and when we do find em the majority are damaged or at risk from bad or 
inappropriate management and sheer neglect...for "what the eye doesn't see the 
heart doesn't grieve over."

How can we ever make the alliances and build the broad public support for the 
conservation of nature if we keep reinforcing the message that the (landless) 
public...all the 90% of us in built-up areas...are the enemies, not the market, 
private property, and production for profit ?

It is only us urban oiks who have the collective potential to stop the 
destruction of nature...not the Daily Telegraph reading rural good-lifers who 
both privately enjoy nature (cos they have the money to own their bit of it) 
and destroy it (by their support and ownership of rampant private capital).

"The earth is a common treasury" (as was said by a wonderful guy of the name of 
Gerard Winstanley 360 years ago)

Dave Bangs


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Subject: Adastra Digest, Vol 75, Issue 11


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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:07:18 +0100
> From: "Patrick Roper" <[email protected]>
> To: "'Adastra discussion group'" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Adastra] Adastra Digest, Vol 75, Issue 9
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> Sarah.  How, as a member of the public, does one get to the places where the
> public is not allowed?
> 
> 
> 
> Patrick
> 
> 
> 
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of S J Patton
> Sent: 22 August 2012 22:00
> To: Adastra discussion group
> Subject: Re: [Adastra] Adastra Digest, Vol 75, Issue 9
> 
> 
> 
> I'm not sure that free-range public access goes particularly well with
> conservation. At least in areas where the public are not allowed there is no
> dog fouling, litter or vandalism.
> 
> 
> 
> Sarah
> 
> 
> 
>  _____
> 
> From: david bangs <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Wednesday, 22 August 2012, 21:55
> Subject: Re: [Adastra] Adastra Digest, Vol 75, Issue 9
> 
> 
> Lovely to hear of the increased no's of G Partridges, Corn Buntings et al on
> the Norfolk estate near Burpham...but the conservation objectives for the
> Partridge coincide with the 'sporting' objective of slaughtering them when
> their numbers get up enuf to 'sustain' that...and the slaughtering of game
> birds is incompatible with public enjoyment of the open countryside, cos the
> gamekeepers / land police will see you off if you stray from statutory
> access provision.
> 
> I am not aware that either the Angmering Park or the Arundel Castle estate
> have dedicated a single acre of statutory access land on their
> properties...and the only access we legally have is the access by statutory
> rights of way and statutory access land...which WE the landless public
> fought for...against the opposition of most big landowners...especially the
> bird slaughtering ones...
> 
> Do tell me if I'm wrong.
> 
> We have no statutory open access to the lovely-but-damaged New Down chalk
> grassland, or half the Barpham Hill chalk grasslands, and the walks over the
> bleak arable prairies of the Angmering Park estate are as depressing as they
> are exhilarating...with massed pheasants running around like gormless
> chickens awaiting their slaughterage...and the other chalk grassland sites
> (like Harrow Hill's wretched paddocked and disappearing west slope chalk
> grassland) are merely under-managed/badly managed 'precious fragments' of a
> destroyed landscape.
> 
> On the Arundel Castle estate we are still banned from access to the Park via
> the traditional and popular Whiteways entrance cos of the needs of game bird
> management in the northern park...so we miss easily seeing the Hellebores
> and orchids and other wildlife which used to be so easily accessible (wot's
> left of it).
> 
> The estate has just bought out the Forestry Commission lease on The Rewell,
> and the visitor welcoming notices of the Forestry Commission have been
> replaced by the Euroforestry notices which make no mention of public access
> rights.
> 
> The Norfolk Estate say they will carry on managing The Rewell as the FC did
> (and the FC had an important project for conserving Fritillaries...which
> resulted in their re-introduction at Abbots Wood, folk will know).
> 
> I wouldn't put a penny on that...and my best guess is that there will be a
> slow squeeze on open public access, less attention and focus on targetted
> nature conservation management, and more emphasis on game bird management.
> 
> Again, tell me if I'm wrong.
> 
> If the FC had bought out the Arundel Estate Rewell freehold (rather than the
> reverse) then the FC would dedicate the whole of The Rewell as statutory
> access land...
> 
> Now that WOULD be something worth celebrating...
> 
> Dave Bangs
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 12:00 PM
> Subject: Adastra Digest, Vol 75, Issue 9
> 
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 23:17:34 +0100 (BST)
>> From: S J Patton <[email protected]>
>> To: Adastra <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [Adastra] Online Entomology Course
>> Message-ID:
>> <[email protected]>
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>> Hi
>> 
>> Does anyone know what happened with the online entomology course which was
> being trialled?
>> 
>> Thanks,
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>> To: "Adastra discussion group" <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [Adastra] Sussex wildlife-friendly farmer needs your vote!
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>> Hi Adastrans
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Have you been to see the masses of Grey Partridges and Corn Buntings and
>> other farmland wildlife flourishing on the Norfolk Estate near Burpham
>> in West Sussex? Did you go and see the Rough-legged Buzzards or Pallid
>> Harrier there?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Well, Peter Knight who runs the farm, and has been so welcoming to
>> nature and naturalists, is one of the four finalists in this year's RSPB
>> Telegraph Nature of Farming Award, the UK's largest farm wildlife
>> competition.  The Award celebrates the great work that many farmers do
>> to care for our countryside.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I'd love it if you could take a couple of minutes to ensure we get a
>> Sussex farmer crowned as worthy champion. To cast your vote, go to
>> www.rspb.org.uk/farmvote. The vote closes on 5 September.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> If you could get your friends and family to vote too, that'd be great.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks guys.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Adrian
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> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 07:59:10 +0100 (BST)
> From: S J Patton <[email protected]>
> To: Adastra discussion group <[email protected]>
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> Hi Patrick,
> 
> Not entirely sure where you are coming from. Are you asking how I know that 
> areas without the public are so nice?!!!!?
> 
> Alternatively. if you are playing devil's thingy, let me turn the question on 
> it's head and ask WHY the public should have access to private land? Be that 
> areas of the Arundel Estate, MoD land, or even my back garden!?
> Just a quick example. When Pagham Harbour was closed off during the F&M 
> outbreak, numbers and variety of breeding birds increased dramatically. The 
> fact is that the majority of 'the public' have little or no understanding of 
> the countryside be that from the farming or conservation perspective. Many of 
> the heathlands near me are Access Land - covered in dog sh1t and 
> ground-nesting birds continually harrassed by dogs off the leads. Personally 
> I am glad that there are places where the public are not allowed, even if 
> that means I can't go there either.
> 
> BTW, good to talk again - it's been a long time!
> 
> Sarah
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Patrick Roper <[email protected]>
> To: 'Adastra discussion group' <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, 23 August 2012, 0:07
> Subject: Re: [Adastra] Adastra Digest, Vol 75, Issue 9
> 
> 
> Sarah.? How, as a member of the public, does one get to the places where the 
> public is not allowed?
> ?
> Patrick
> ?
> From:[email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of S J Patton
> Sent: 22 August 2012 22:00
> To: Adastra discussion group
> Subject: Re: [Adastra] Adastra Digest, Vol 75, Issue 9
> ?
> I'm not sure that free-range public access goes particularly well with 
> conservation. At least in areas where the public are not allowed there is no 
> dog fouling, litter or vandalism.?
> ?
> Sarah
> ?
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From:david bangs <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Wednesday, 22 August 2012, 21:55
> Subject: Re: [Adastra] Adastra Digest, Vol 75, Issue 9
> 
> Lovely to hear of the increased no's of G Partridges, Corn Buntings et al on 
> the Norfolk estate near Burpham...but the conservation objectives for the 
> Partridge coincide with the 'sporting' objective of slaughtering them when 
> their numbers get up enuf to 'sustain' that...and the slaughtering of game 
> birds is incompatible with public enjoyment of the open countryside, cos the 
> gamekeepers / land police will see you off if you stray from statutory access 
> provision.
> 
> I am not aware that either the Angmering Park or the Arundel Castle estate 
> have dedicated a single acre of statutory access land on their 
> properties...and the only access we legally have is the access by statutory 
> rights of way and statutory access land...which WE the landless public fought 
> for...against the opposition of most big landowners...especially the bird 
> slaughtering ones...
> 
> Do tell me if I'm wrong.
> 
> We have no statutory open access to the lovely-but-damaged New Down chalk 
> grassland, or half the Barpham Hill chalk grasslands, and the walks over the 
> bleak arable prairies of the Angmering Park estate are as depressing as they 
> are exhilarating...with massed pheasants running around like gormless 
> chickens awaiting their slaughterage...and the other chalk grassland sites 
> (like Harrow Hill's wretched paddocked and disappearing west slope chalk 
> grassland) are merely under-managed/badly managed 'precious fragments' of a 
> destroyed landscape.
> 
> On the Arundel Castle estate we are still banned from access to the Park via 
> the traditional and popular Whiteways entrance cos of the needs of game bird 
> management in the northern park...so we miss easily seeing the Hellebores and 
> orchids and other wildlife which used to be so easily accessible (wot's left 
> of it).
> 
> The estate has just bought out the Forestry Commission lease on The Rewell, 
> and the visitor welcoming notices of the Forestry Commission have been 
> replaced by the Euroforestry notices which make no mention of public access 
> rights.
> 
> The Norfolk Estate say they will carry on managing The Rewell as the FC did 
> (and the FC had an important project for conserving Fritillaries...which 
> resulted in their re-introduction at Abbots Wood, folk will know).
> 
> I wouldn't put a penny on that...and my best guess is that there will be a 
> slow squeeze on open public access, less attention and focus on targetted 
> nature conservation management, and more emphasis on game bird management.
> 
> Again, tell me if I'm wrong.
> 
> If the FC had bought out the Arundel Estate Rewell freehold (rather than the 
> reverse) then the FC would dedicate the whole of The Rewell as statutory 
> access land...
> 
> Now that WOULD be something worth celebrating...
> 
> Dave Bangs
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 12:00 PM
> Subject: Adastra Digest, Vol 75, Issue 9
> 
> 
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>> ? 2. Sussex wildlife-friendly farmer needs your vote! (Thomas, Adrian)
>> 
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 23:17:34 +0100 (BST)
>> From: S J Patton <[email protected]>
>> To: Adastra <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [Adastra] Online Entomology Course
>> Message-ID:
>> <[email protected]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> Does anyone know what happened with the online entomology course which was 
>> being trialled?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Sarah
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 09:27:46 +0100
>> From: "Thomas, Adrian" <[email protected]>
>> To: "Adastra discussion group" <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [Adastra] Sussex wildlife-friendly farmer needs your vote!
>> Message-ID:
>> <[email protected]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>> 
>> Hi Adastrans
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Have you been to see the masses of Grey Partridges and Corn Buntings and
>> other farmland wildlife flourishing on the Norfolk Estate near Burpham
>> in West Sussex? Did you go and see the Rough-legged Buzzards or Pallid
>> Harrier there?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Well, Peter Knight who runs the farm, and has been so welcoming to
>> nature and naturalists, is one of the four finalists in this year's RSPB
>> Telegraph Nature of Farming Award, the UK's largest farm wildlife
>> competition.? The Award celebrates the great work that many farmers do
>> to care for our countryside.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I'd love it if you could take a couple of minutes to ensure we get a
>> Sussex farmer crowned as worthy champion. To cast your vote, go to
>> www.rspb.org.uk/farmvote. The vote closes on 5 September.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> If you could get your friends and family to vote too, that'd be great.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks guys.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Adrian
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