> * Jim Reid
>
>> I’m not convinced there’s any point in having a waiting list or maintaining 
>> an expensive bureauracy to oversee the dregs of the dregs of v4. IMO, once 
>> the NCC is unable to allocate /22s to new LIRs, it’s game over. v4 is 
>> finally exhausted. Get over it.
> Should be a simple proposal: Any returned/reclaimed IPv4 space should
> simply be passed on to the IANA Recovered IPv4 Pool, and the NCC should
> say «no thanks» to any further allocations from the IANA (or instantly
> return them if declining them outright is not possible).
>
> At least we'd be finally free of the multi-LIR abusers and their bitching
> about having to pay their invoices on members-discuss that way...

That is an option. But in order to not punish late entries to the
market, it should also include a fixed timeframe when EVERYBODY has to
stop using v4 (at least on the public Internet) ... I don't see any
technical reason why providers all over the world still aren't able (or
willing) to do v6 ... of course I know you can't force customers to
provide services on v6 (or even to use v6 - I believe of our customers,
maybe 1% actively use v6, and another few percent use it unknowingly :) ).
>From our point of view, we could drop external v4 pretty quickly if it
weren't required to reach (or be reached) by v4-only users/services ...

-garry

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