*Parag Patil* PhD Student Discipline of Chemical Engineering <http://www.iitgn.ac.in/academics/che/index.php> Indian Institute of Technology, Gandhinagar
*+91-9421178717 / 8169904690* |LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/parag-patil> personal website : www.sciencebehindstuff.com ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Parag Patil <patil.pa...@iitgn.ac.in> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 at 00:37 Subject: Re: AYUSH | Rakshabandhan Message To: Mukund Karmalkar <63.muk...@gmail.com> Mukund ji, Following are my questions : 1. Kindly explain: How come my foundation is shaky? A writer, who writes in the Guardian, the South China Morning Post, VICE, the Sueddeutsche Zeitung, Die Tages Zeitung, the web dailies Scroll.in and The Wire.in, VOGUE (India), ELLE, FountainInk, and Outlook Traveller magazines, the webzine Yahoo Originals and leading dailies such as The Times of India, The Telegraph and Business Standard, who won Ramnath Goenka award for feature writing *DOES NOT HAVE ANY CREDIBILITY*? (SOURCE: her homepage) 2. How did you 'thought' that If I am okay / to okay with the article? What is your basis to conclude that I subscribe to all the thoughts in the article? Coming back to my questions. I have asked these questions in the right spirit because I wanted to understand the thoughts behind Vanvasi Schools. Anyways, I would reframe the questions, so that you will feel that they are rightly spirited! 1. Why not '*ADIVASI ASHRAM SCHOOLS* ', why *VANVASI ASHRAM SCHOOLS? * I myself have studied in Ashram School, prior to going to a Navodaya Vidyalaya. I have enough of Adivasi friends, my colleagues, and my school-friends. They are very proud of being *'Adivasi'* If I will call them *Vanvasi,* they will get angry! Because of the meaning associated with it. Adivasi: People living here in the soil for ages. Vanvasi: People living in jungles. So, to call someone Vanvasi, will it not be offending? Today, many of my Adivasi friends live in cities, why should I call them Vanvasi? 2. It is a genuine question: asked in the right spirit : (Not based on the article), however, you can feel so, but It's genuine : a. Does, Vanvasi Ashram Schools teach the RSS Ideology ? ( I have not commented on the ideology so far, and I do not want to ) b. Does, Vanvasi Ashram School says that Christians / Muslims are our enemies? Let the question be from that '*lousy-article' by Ms (not Mr, as you have quoted), but what is the harm, in letting us know this?* *You can skip answering this if you want! * Hopefully you can answer these questions. However, if you still find that my these questions are offending, you can skip these That is all! *Parag Patil* On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 at 00:02, Mukund Karmalkar <63.muk...@gmail.com> wrote: > U could have asked the questions yourself if you have any doubts or want > clarifications. > Why quote somebody's article to raise them - as if that is the standard or > cornerstone. > > If its your question ask - or - have direct experience to get them > clarified. > > If I say "Contravarsy" its wrong but if that guy who wrote article says - > "controversial" > ideologue MS Golwalkar dubbed the 'guru of hate' by historian Ramachandra > Guha - then you seem to be OK regarding it. > > My point is u r asking question based on article which i donot regard > factual - so why should i answer ? > U have right to ask question but ask with right spirit. > Donot shoot over another's shoulder. > Ur questioning is over a shaky foundation. > First correct the foundation and ask the same question - they will > disappear. > Namaste. > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 10:19 PM Parag Patil <patil.pa...@iitgn.ac.in> > wrote: > >> Moreover, as you said that ' I have raised the controversies '. >> >> I'm deeply saddened to hear this now! >> >> I have referred to that article , whenever and wherever required. >> Therefore, saying that the CONTRAVERSIES are being created by me is a WRONG >> thing. >> >> Mere questions are asked with expectations of answers. If not able to / >> want to / answer as being questions are naive/ unnecessary /or anything. I >> would urge to leave them! >> >> On Mon, 24 Aug, 2020, 10:12 PM Parag Patil, <patil.pa...@iitgn.ac.in> >> wrote: >> >>> Dear Mukund ji, >>> >>> I did not say anything such as the report is correct / wrong etc. >>> >>> However, if an article is out there; and if the questions based on that >>> article are asked, why one should not answer? >>> >>> Is there anything wrong about it? >>> >>> Instead of commenting on the credibility of the article, why cannot we >>> answer the CATEGORICAL questions raised? >>> >>> If we do not want to discuss about it, then it's okay! No problem at >>> all. However, being naive to this topic, I , and infact many others, would >>> be happy to know answers to these questions. >>> >>> But, anyways! Would now urge to close the topic! >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, 24 Aug, 2020, 9:53 PM Mukund Karmalkar, <63.muk...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I read through the article written by Sohini Chattopadhaya ( which u >>>> have quoted in the link )- he seems to be inclined anti-RSS by the >>>> statements he makes ( eg. controversial ideologue MS Golwalkar dubbed >>>> the 'guru of hate' by historian Ramachandra Guha ) and pro-leftist ( >>>> eg. he quotes PUCL etc.) - few examples to give. So, I do not consider it >>>> as just a factual report but his interpretation of what he thinks should be >>>> vs. what exists. There are many such controversial and negative statements >>>> (In the gloomy office where I am received) he makes to justify his >>>> conclusions. >>>> He may be some awardee but I donot consider this article as a report of >>>> what exists and what VKA stands for - neither helps in understanding the >>>> controversies u have raised. >>>> Namaste. >>>> Dr.Mukund Karmalkar. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 11:11 PM Parag Patil <patil.pa...@iitgn.ac.in> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> श्री जोग , >>>>> >>>>> आपला रिपोर्ट वाचून खूप छान वाटले . आपली प्रगती प्रशंसनीय आहे . >>>>> >>>>> परंतु काही प्रश्न मला विचारायचे आहेत : >>>>> >>>>> १. आपल्याला आदिवासी या शब्दाने काय अडचण आहे ? आदिवासी हा शब्द हि >>>>> संस्कृतच आहे . >>>>> >>>>> २. वनवासी हा शब्द का ? भारतातील सर्व ट्रायबल वनात राहत नाहीत . >>>>> >>>>> ३. ख्रिस्ती , मुस्लिम आपले शत्रू आहेत , अश्या प्रकारची शिकवण दिली >>>>> जाते का ? आणि जर का हो , तर त्याचे कारण काय ? शाळेतील पाठयक्रम , अश्या >>>>> प्रकारची शिकवण देते का ? जर देते तर याचे कारण काय ? आणि आपले यावर काय >>>>> म्हणणे आहे ? >>>>> >>>>> ४. शाळा , राष्ट्रीय स्वयक सेवक संघाची विचारसरणी अनुसरण्यात कितपत >>>>> विश्वास ठेवते ? जर हो तर का ? जर नाही तर का ? >>>>> >>>>> इतर वाचकांना हि मी यावर त्यांचे विचार विचारीत आहे . जर देशातील >>>>> प्रशासन 'आदिवासी ' हा शब्द वापरतो तर वनवासी या शब्दाला अर्थ आहे काय ? वनात >>>>> जंगली जनावरे राहत असतील , वनवासी या शब्दाची घृणा न येण्याचे कारण आहे का ? >>>>> आदिवासी हा शब्द आपली ओळख दर्शवत नाही काय ? >>>>> >>>>> नोट : वरील सर्व प्रश्न हे 'सोहिनी चट्टोपाध्याय (रामनाथ गोयंका >>>>> पुरस्कृत) या पत्रकारांनी लिहिलेल्या लेखावर आधारित आहेत '. सोहिनी यांनी >>>>> अनेक >>>>> नावाजलेल्या बातमी पत्रकारांमध्ये लिखाण केले आहे (लिंक >>>>> <http://sohinichattopadhyay.com/about/>) >>>>> >>>>> त्यांचे लिखाण , ज्यावर आधारित मी वरील प्रश्न विचारले आहेत : लिंक >>>>> <http://www.catchnews.com/india-news/exclusive-inside-a-hindutva-hostel-how-rss-is-rewiring-the-tribal-mind-1450354461.html> >>>>> : >>>>> Inside a Hindutva hostel: How RSS is rewriting the tribal mind. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Parag Patil* >>>>> PhD Student >>>>> Discipline of Chemical Engineering >>>>> <http://www.iitgn.ac.in/academics/che/index.php> >>>>> Indian Institute of Technology, Gandhinagar >>>>> >>>>> personal website : www.sciencebehindstuff.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 at 20:56, 'Atul Jog' via AYUSH | Adivasi Yuva >>>>> Shakti <adiyuva@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Pranam, >>>>>> I am sending you Rakshabandhan Message in Hindi & English with >>>>>> quarterly report & achievements of Kalyan Ashram. I'm sorry for delay to >>>>>> send this letter, but better let than never. Thank you for associating >>>>>> with >>>>>> Kalyan Ashram. 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