At 09:00 AM 7/17/02, you wrote:
> >-----Original Message----- > >From: mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 10:31 AM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: RE: [admin] CLUE web-site > > > > > >On Wed, 2002-07-17 at 06:56, Bill Traynor wrote: > >> > >> > >> >-----Original Message----- > >> >From: Ron Harwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >> >Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 8:44 AM > >> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >Subject: Re: [admin] CLUE web-site > >> > > >> > > >> >> the more I read about Zope, the more interesting it sounds. > >> >Here's a > >> >> blurb from > >> >> http://www.zope.org/Documentation/ZopeBook/IntroducingZope.stx: > >> > > >> >[snip] > >> > > >> >> This choice is kind of self serving as well as I will be > >> >undertaking a > >> >> Zope based project at work and will be learning it anyway. > >> >> > >> >> Thoughts > >> >> Bill Traynor > >> > > >> >If I remember correctly - Zope is an application framework... > >> >meaning that if you want CMS/Collaboration/etc. the tools to > >> >build them are all there - but you still need to either build, > >> >or find the applications, no? > >> > >> Yes, zope is an application framework as you describe. > >However, there > >> is a huge user community and any functionality that is provided by a > >> slash-like site has already been written by someone and is usually > >> downloadable for free. And if something isn't there, we can > >get Rice > >> to code it up in Perl ;). The benefit of Zope is in it's > >flexibility > >> and extensibility. > >> > >> I'm going to do some experimenting with it over the next couple of > >> weeks and see how it goes. However, if everyone agrees that > >the need > >> to update linux.ca is needed more urgently, we should use a solution > >> that's faster to implement. > >> > >Personally, I wouldn't bother with Zope, too much overhead. > >Can you define what you mean by overhead and provide a quick comparison of >Zope overhead vs. PHP overhead? Zope is daemon that needs to run all the time. PHP only runs when apache needs it. > >PHP is much faster and can do everything that we would want. > >Combined with mysql or postgreSQL, php is one of the best web > >development environments out there. For speed, only JSP is it's equal. > >For what it's worth, the only time I've ever seen JSP be fast is on large, >enterprise class servers. But that may have changed by now as I was dealing >with it about 12 months ago. Hmm, I was going on some benchmarks from ZDnet that were comparing JSP, PHP4, ColdFusion, ASP, Zope. PHP was the fastest and JSP was a close second. Everything else was way behind with ASP limping at the rear. -- Mark Lane Hard Data Ltd. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Telephone: 01-780-456-9771 FAX: 01-780-456-9772 11060 - 166 Avenue Edmonton, AB, Canada T5X 1Y3 http://www.harddata.com/ --> Ask me about our Affordable Alpha Systems! <--
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