-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Mark Lane �crivait/wrote: > > >PHP is much faster and can do everything that we would want. > > >Combined with mysql or postgreSQL, php is one of the best web > > >development environments out there. For speed, only JSP is it's equal. > > > >For what it's worth, the only time I've ever seen JSP be fast is on large, > >enterprise class servers. But that may have changed by now as I was > > dealing with it about 12 months ago. > > Hmm, > > I was going on some benchmarks from ZDnet that were comparing JSP, PHP4, > ColdFusion, ASP, Zope. > > PHP was the fastest and JSP was a close second. Everything else was way > behind with ASP limping at the rear.
Can you give us a more precice hint on where you read that? In december 2000, at a previous job, we spent one week or two on benchmarks. For huge calculus on the NT platform, the winners were Java|JSP, ASP, PHP, Perl, and ColdFusion. When doing calculus and DB access, Java was still the best, ASP second (but using lots more CPU than Java), PHP third, then ColdFusion, and finally, Perl. That is to say that we never saw PHP at the top, even when testing with Linux. And even if some gave good results in terms of hits, CPU usage differed by a large amount, meaning some would not scale. And as Matthew mentionned it, benchmark is not an easy field. There are lots of variables to deal with. Best benchmarks are done by yourself. Leaving performance apart, I've worked extensively with PHP, ASP, Java, JSP, ColdFusion and Zope over the last three years, and the only thing I can say is: "it depends on what you need". Finally, I must say I like Zope's design. I'm the "main" admin of www.linux-quebec.org, where I used Zope for the first time. It's a great tool, but if you only know PHP, you'll get lost quickly. One of its greatest strength, as Nicholas Accad stated, is its permission system, which allows to give only a certain set of permissions to a certain set of objects to a certain set of people, allowing multiple user to work on the same web site in a secure way. Oh, and even if Mark was right about the overhead of Zope vs PHP, it does not mean PHP's faster than Zope. In fact, having everything already in memory can improve performance and scalability a lot. Let's put this away, and decide what we want, first. Nicolas -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9Nc5Ij/t3fTnUstQRArlzAKChum3w9U3aYLj1N7GsKDfo+gOHwQCdHZQb QYmOOTU922bgfZkwfwJjmZM= =mvFP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
