oh...  ok...  thanks....

Taky Cheung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:asf is an earlier version of wmv.

There is also asx and wmx too. They are the meta-file (or simply a text file) 
pointing to the actual media location. 


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From:   Frank   Mixson 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
  Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 9:15 PM
  Subject: RE: [AP] Video For Internet -   need help with compression
  

Good stuff Jeff,

The url that you give names the   piece with the horse as a ".asf" file.. what 
format is that?  I thought   the window media encoder saved files as ..wmv's.

-Frank

"Jeffery   J. Haas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   wrote:

*         David Hurdon   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   wrote:
Renee, I did some experimenting earlier today with a two-minute file   (DV

AVI) using the Procoder Express plug-in for Premiere, my tool of   choice
for 
wmv encoding. The first export, at a combined video/audio   272 kbps, 15
fps, 
320X240 2-pass constrained VBR  came out at 3.9   MB, or roughly 2 MB/min.

The second, at 128 kbps, 15 fps, 320X240,   1-pass CBR came out at 1.7 MB,
or 
just less than 1 MB/minute, which I   think is your target. If you want to

look at either of them they're at   www.contentshop.tv/procoder.htm  -
they 
are the last two files in   the list (Vacation). I identified the smaller 
file as 108 kbps but it's in   fact 128, as you'll see in the player.



They are impressive, but   to be fair let's keep in mind that most of the
material was still photos.   The test of a codec is how it handles motion
but that's not to say that   Procoder did a bad job..it was excellent
because the file sizes were the   most impressive point about it.
The motion scenes were also quite   good!
If you're willing to halve your frame rate, compose your motion   scenes
carefully and keep your bit rate down you can do some incredible   things
with a couple of megs.
Here is an example of a "typical" four   minute music video at the
traditional 29.97 (NTSC) frame rate, with the   bits upped to 548.
A lot larger but still within the usual 20 megabyte   allowance that most
broadband ISP's a lot to their customers for "personal   online storage"
which means you could upload a video like this to your   personal "web
space".
I don't have Procoder so I simply took the DV-AVI   file and used the free
Windows Media Encoder to convert   it.
Cheers,
JeffH




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